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By their fruits you will know them - Bible. There is a heart problem. He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that.......


19 posted on 07/17/2006 5:39:58 AM PDT by tmp02
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He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that.......

The word shit refers to a substance produced by, or as a verb to an action performed by every living human being (actually, every living creature). It is a crude and rude expression, yes; but it is not abuse of the Lord's name or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

We'd prefer he not use it, as it gives fuel to the anti-Christian element ("see, I told you he was faking religion"), but he is human like us.

31 posted on 07/17/2006 5:54:26 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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Really? Where is the bible does it say you shouldn't say "shit"? Please point out the chapter and verse.


46 posted on 07/17/2006 6:08:24 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If the intelligence agencies can't find the leakers how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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*sigh*

By their fruits you will know them - Bible

True:

No more attacks on our homeland soil

No hostage situations that involve hundreds of school children being killed

The respect and loyalty of many fine Christians

The respect and love of a woman who inspires respect and loyalty

Honors his parents and family

I am not looking for a debate about the current state of our President's soul. However, it seems somewhat presumptive to make the judgement call that he is not reading his bible everyday and that he has a 'heart' problem.

I would venture that the heart in question bears more of a burden than we are aware of. We all fall short of the glory, and sometimes we use cuss words. He is falliable, as we all are.

His use of sh*t has not caused this sister to stumble.

I question the 'heart' problem of the media that chose to print this exchange.

50 posted on 07/17/2006 6:11:14 AM PDT by mother22wife21 ( http://www.avianflutalk.com/default.asp-knowledge is power-get prepping!)
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I don't like to see Christians curse. I believe it hurts the body. But I don't see an out and out prohibition against it and I think that there's a larger heart problem on the part of the judgers and nay sayers against fellow believers. I can read my Bible every day and still sin, I'm sorry to say. But it doesn't mean Jesus is not in my heart.


53 posted on 07/17/2006 6:13:58 AM PDT by twigs
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How about if he says "Holy $#!+"?


56 posted on 07/17/2006 6:15:01 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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By their fruits you will know them - Bible. There is a heart problem. He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that......

This post is for tmp02s benefit: Were you born stupid or did you have to train for it? I have never seen any passage in the bible that forbids the use of the word Sh**. Please indicate it for me/us.

68 posted on 07/17/2006 6:27:56 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that.......

Which is more foolish, to think that, or to post that on FR? Normally, someone posting obvious flame-bait is considered a troll!

74 posted on 07/17/2006 6:34:12 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Oh get off your high horse. The president is a human just like all of us


117 posted on 07/17/2006 7:14:41 AM PDT by Kaslin (Bad news for the left..President Bush's plan is working, and the Carl Rove indictment went bye bye)
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By their fruits you will know them - Bible. There is a heart problem. He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that.......

I do recall Jesus saying something to an accusing crowd, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"...which I guess is you, right tmp02?

124 posted on 07/17/2006 7:19:16 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (To exercise your first amendment rights, go to college. To defend them, join the military.)
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Excuse my ignorance but I am not aware that the Bible addresses this word? Can you enlighten me?
Thanks.


140 posted on 07/17/2006 7:29:15 AM PDT by jch10
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Are you so naive to believe that NOBODY including Jesus never said $hit (or the equivalent)in the Bible? There is no prohibition against any words in the Bible except for taking God's name in vain. Words are just words they are neither good nor evil they are just words. It's the intent of how they are used that is good or evil.
141 posted on 07/17/2006 7:29:27 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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Watch that log in your eye.


189 posted on 07/17/2006 7:55:24 AM PDT by pepperdog
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Barbara should wash his mouth out with soap.


196 posted on 07/17/2006 7:58:43 AM PDT by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming. I'M a BUSHBOT!)
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There is a heart problem. He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that.......

As it happens, the KJV is sprinkled with salty words like piss and whore.

212 posted on 07/17/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by dighton
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Grow up twerp. You must be a nerd if you have NEVER used that word.


215 posted on 07/17/2006 8:35:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that......

"And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people began to commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab." - Numbers 25:1
220 posted on 07/17/2006 8:45:53 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (A Disproportionate Response Is An Effective Response)
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Oh for crying out loud!

A bit anal, aren't we? Or just another self righteous holier than thou self proclaimed born again who doesn't really "get" what it means to be a Christian?
221 posted on 07/17/2006 8:47:17 AM PDT by Nik Naym
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Time for a bit of a language lesson.

AFAIK, there is only one "curse" word in the English language - the relatively mild "damn." More rare (and generally considered even miler) are "swear" words - "by Jove," "by jiminy," etc. Most common are the vulgar words -- those words that were once common usage, but have been replaced more polite terms: "sh*t" and "p*ss" were replaced by "feces" and "urine," for example. Other vulgar words include words that describe various bodily and/or biological functions. I will leave those as an exercise for you, dear reader.

Now, then, we see that President Bush did not curse anyone or anything, nor did he swear. Instead, he was guilty, at worst, of using moderately vulgar language. Considering that St. Paul himself had a standing request for certain people to emasculate themselves (see Galations 5:12 if you don't believe me), referring to Hezbollah's actions as "sh*t" seems downright mild, doesn't it?


234 posted on 07/17/2006 9:04:06 AM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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You are an idiot.

Show me in Scripture where cussing is a sin.

There are numerous reasons why you can't use Scripture to say cussing is a sin.

But, here is the basics:

1) Scripture only explicitly says saying God's name in vain is a sin.
2) Scripture does say we are to use honorable language.

However, there is no objective answer to what words would be honorable or dishonorable. In the Middle Ages people were shocked and considered it cussing if you said "devil."

Now, shit barely phases anybody, and yes, I used the word. Deal with it.

tmp, you may not like it, but by saying he is immoral by using A ****HUMAN**** STANDARD for what is moral or immoral....and that is what you are doing because again, there is no BIBLICAL, OBJECTIVE way to judge what is "honorable" or "dishonorable", you are relying on man's ways and not God's.

You are an idolator. Now, I wonder what God would find more offense...saying shit or listening to the vain traditions of men instead of his Word.

Considering Scripture is filled with warnings against following vain tradition, I somehow think he would be more concerned about that.

Saying shit is not a violation of the commandment against using God's name in vain.

Grow up.


238 posted on 07/17/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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He can't be reading his Bible every day like he claims with a mouth like that

Are you for real?

239 posted on 07/17/2006 9:08:04 AM PDT by EveningStar
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