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7/15 Middle East Live Thread
7/14 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/16/06 | Various

Posted on 07/15/2006 5:35:46 AM PDT by Solson

I thought this could be a new thread for today. BurbankKarl's thread did well yesterday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; rebelyell2; ww3; wwiii
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To: saveliberty

LOL. I vote for Oprah. I actually thing that would be worse.


1,901 posted on 07/16/2006 3:22:28 AM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Bahbah

LOL

I realized later that "What not to Wear" would be worse for them.


1,902 posted on 07/16/2006 3:25:41 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: BurbankKarl

That is simply incorrect. There are guests in my hotel from all over Europe who are awaiting evacuation plans. The only evacuations have been by highway to Syria. At the Syrian border, Americans and Aussies have been denied entry. Moreover, the highways are being bombed by the Israelis so they are extremely dangerous. Most of the people who left were Arabs from other ME countries who knew this thing was going to blow as soon as Hizbollah took the two Israeli prisoners.


1,903 posted on 07/16/2006 4:17:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: saveliberty
I realized later that "What not to Wear" would be worse for them.

That does it. We're putting you in charge of psyops. :)

1,905 posted on 07/16/2006 4:58:18 AM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Bahbah

bwhahahahahahaha!


1,906 posted on 07/16/2006 5:04:17 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: rebel_yell2

Prayers up, rebel_yell2.


1,907 posted on 07/16/2006 5:05:24 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well I ran across this on Google Groups

The smartest Arab in the entire Universe speaks:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.politics.misc/browse_thread/thread/c6a8a3fab467a92a/7619721c1f894ef3?lnk=st&q=%22Fouad+Ajami+%22&rnum=2&hl=en#7619721c1f894ef3

Dear Brethren, the War With Israel Is Over

As Israel enters the third week of an incursion into the same Gaza Strip it
voluntarily evacuated a few months ago, a sense of reality among Arabs is
spreading through commentary by Arab pundits, letters to the editor, and
political talk shows on Arabic-language TV networks.The new views are
stunning both in their maturity and in their realism. The best way I can
think of to convey them is in the form of a letter to the Palestinian Arabs
from their Arab friends:


Dear Palestinian Arab brethren:


The war with Israel is over.


You have lost. Surrender and negotiate to secure a future for your children.


We, your Arab brothers, may say until we are blue in the face that we stand
by you, but the wise among you and most of us know that we are moving on,
away from the tired old idea of the Palestinian Arab cause and the "eternal
struggle" with Israel.


Dear friends, you and your leaders have wasted three generations trying to
fight for Palestine, but the truth is the Palestine you could have had in
1948 is much bigger than the one you could have had in 1967, which in turn
is much bigger than what you may have to settle for now or in another 10
years. Struggle means less land and more misery and utter loneliness.


At the moment, brothers, you would be lucky to secure a semblance of a state
in that Gaza Strip into which you have all crowded, and a small part of the
West Bank of the Jordan. It isn't going to get better. Time is running out
even for this much land, so here are some facts, figures, and sound advice,
friends.


You hold keys, which you drag out for television interviews, to houses that
do not exist or are inhabited by Israelis who have no intention of leaving
Jaffa, Haifa, Tel Aviv, or West Jerusalem. You shoot old guns at modern
Israeli tanks and American-made fighter jets, doing virtually no harm to
Israel while bringing the wrath of its mighty army down upon you. You fire
ridiculously inept Kassam rockets that cause little destruction and delude
yourselves into thinking this is a war of liberation. Your government, your
social institutions, your schools, and your economy are all in ruins.


Your young people are growing up illiterate, ill, and bent on rites of death
and suicide, while you, in effect, are living on the kindness of foreigners,
including America and the United Nations. Every day your officials must beg
for your daily bread, dependent on relief trucks that carry food and
medicine into the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, while your criminal Muslim
fundamentalist Hamas government continues to fan the flames of a war it can
neither fight nor hope to win.


In other words, brothers, you are down, out, and alone in a burnt-out
landscape that is shrinking by the day.


What kind of struggle is this? Is it worth waging at all? More important,
what kind of miserable future does it portend for your children, the fourth
or fifth generation of the Arab world's have-nots?


We, your Arab brothers, have moved on.


Those of us who have oil money are busy accumulating wealth and building
housing, luxury developments, state-of-the-art universities and schools, and
new highways and byways. Those of us who share borders with Israel, such as
Egypt and Jordan, have signed a peace treaty with it and are not going to
war for you any time soon. Those of us who are far away, in places like
North Africa and Iraq, frankly could not care less about what happens to
you.


Only Syria continues to feed your fantasies that someday it will join you in
liberating Palestine, even though a huge chunk of its territory, the entire
Golan Heights, was taken by Israel in 1967 and annexed. The Syrians, my
friends, will gladly fight down to the last Palestinian Arab.


Before you got stuck with this Hamas crowd, another cheating, conniving,
leader of yours,Yasser Arafat, sold you a rotten bill of goods - more pain,
greater corruption, and millions stolen by his relatives - while your
children played in the sewers of Gaza.


The war is over. Why not let a new future begin?



1,908 posted on 07/16/2006 6:52:01 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: rebel_yell2; sofaman; SE Mom

MSNBC reporting that helicopters with security accessment teams are on the ground in Beirut. There to access how to get Americans out. (my wording).


1,909 posted on 07/16/2006 6:56:38 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

Send in the infantry:)


1,910 posted on 07/16/2006 7:02:34 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rebel_yell2
MSNBC ALERT HEADLINE - BREAKING NEWS:

U.S. Embassy in Beirut says helicopters are preparing evacuations.

1,911 posted on 07/16/2006 7:02:58 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: SE Mom
Noooooooo SE Mom

Good Morning!

1,912 posted on 07/16/2006 7:04:08 AM PDT by TexKat
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Timeline: Decades of conflict in Lebanon, Israel
1,913 posted on 07/16/2006 7:07:25 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

LOL.Good morning to you m'dear:) Just kidding...but you KNOW they could get the job done right in a short time..



1,914 posted on 07/16/2006 7:11:47 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: rebel_yell2; sofaman
U.S. evacuation teams arrive in Lebanon

The Associated Press

BEIRUT, Lebanon — U.S. security teams arrived by helicopter Sunday at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut to start planning the evacuation of Americans from Lebanon.

Two helicopters flew in from over the Mediterranean and landed on the embassy grounds, located on a fortified hilltop in the north Beirut suburb of Aukar, witnesses said.

"The arrival of the teams is an important first step in facilitating the safe departure of Americans who want to leave Lebanon," the U.S. Embassy said in a statement.

It said the teams would arrange for "secure transportation for American citizens who wish to depart Lebanon." There are an estimated 25,000 Americans living or working in Lebanon, but U.S. officials said they assume that far fewer would choose to leave.

The United States said Saturday it was working on a plan to evacuate American citizens from Lebanon to the neighboring island of Cyprus.

Israeli airstrikes targeting runways have closed down Beirut's international airport. Israel also imposed a naval blockade on the country and has made road travel dangerous by targeting the main highway between Lebanon and neighboring Syria.

1,915 posted on 07/16/2006 7:24:00 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: CAluvdubya

What about Libya?


1,916 posted on 07/16/2006 7:25:13 AM PDT by mel
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placemark


1,917 posted on 07/16/2006 7:28:27 AM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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To: rebel_yell2
My family will pray for me.

Your FR family is praying for your safe return. Godspeed.

1,918 posted on 07/16/2006 8:24:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane Season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: Solson
Eight killed in rocket barrage on Haifa - MSNBC

Hezbollah rockets kill 8 in Haifa - CNN

Israel finds bodies of 3 sailors killed in Friday attack

Israel, Hezbollah Trade Attacks - FoxNews

1,919 posted on 07/16/2006 8:29:42 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: PrinceOfCups

Glad to hear all is going well, and good luck on your move. Sounds like it will be quite a change but at least as you said you can hit Dubai for ice cold Coronas every so often. :)


1,920 posted on 07/16/2006 8:45:10 AM PDT by KJC1
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