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Big Brother Prescribes - Are mandatory aerobics classes in your future?
Reason ^ | July 14, 2006 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 07/14/2006 2:00:27 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: longtermmemmory
who determines "your time"?

Who indeed?

21 posted on 07/14/2006 3:18:17 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: telebob

Stay tuned for further Adventures of Citizen X!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My tagline!


22 posted on 07/14/2006 3:32:46 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Syntyr
Diabetics whose A1c levels are too high will receive a letter and educational materials from the DOH and their physicians will be alerted to their test results and they will have their debit cards restricted so that they can no longer purchase any foods which, based on the learned consideration and/of findings of the Department of Public Health, are judged to have too high of a fat content or sugar...
23 posted on 07/14/2006 3:33:37 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: nothingnew

How about some SOMEC?


24 posted on 07/14/2006 3:33:39 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: yankeedame

Okay, here's a data base that really is an invasion of my privacy. Where are the protests from the New York Times?


25 posted on 07/14/2006 3:52:19 PM PDT by joylyn
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To: neverdem

Never underestimate the ferocious acts of tyranny which can be exercised (pun) in the name of "Public Health."


26 posted on 07/14/2006 4:00:13 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Having a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on your car is like having "Born Loozer" tatooed on your arm.)
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To: neverdem

Is it time to shoot the b*stards yet?


27 posted on 07/14/2006 4:53:14 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number - I am a FREE MAN!")
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Never underestimate the ferocious acts of tyranny which can be exercised (pun) in the name of "Public Health."

Same thing for the words "Public Safety".

28 posted on 07/14/2006 4:58:48 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number - I am a FREE MAN!")
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To: neverdem
Then get ready for your prescription for compulsory biweekly aerobics classes.

Otherwise known as "physical jerks (1984)."

29 posted on 07/14/2006 5:19:50 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: neverdem
"When anyone dies at an early age from a preventable cause in New York City, it's my fault," New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Frieden declared recently (Financial Times registration required).

Then why not throw this frickin' self-important bureaucrat into gen pop on multiple counts of murder. He can get HIS exercise doing unspeakable things with other inmates.

30 posted on 07/14/2006 5:43:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Calpernia

Say, does this crap have anything to do with the UN Health 2010 initiative, or is this just a local variety of jungle rot?


31 posted on 07/14/2006 6:08:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: FierceDraka
Is it time to shoot the b*stards yet?

No. However, it's time for all conservative New York City inhabitants to move to red states.

32 posted on 07/14/2006 6:25:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: RipSawyer
If these bastards don't get the whip put to them soon, we'll all be Citizen X!

Damn...and you don't want to have bad paper work when that happens!

33 posted on 07/14/2006 6:33:20 PM PDT by telebob
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To: neverdem
I wonder if they'd first implement it on fat people who are on welfare, the way some people have talked seriously about sterilizing welfare recipients who keep getting pregnant.

Edmund Burke said something like remove internal restraint, and one shall find oneself constrained from the outside. This is a grotesquely exaggerated constraint imposed to make up for a relatively minor lack of internal restraint.

If cooking classes were required in school people might know how to eat better at a lower price. But I think proposed curriculum changes won't make this health commissioner feel good enough about himself, hence the grandstanding.

34 posted on 07/14/2006 6:48:20 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Okay, you want an example of an abuse of surveillance technology and big govt forcing/requiring people to do something, THIS is the example that I turn to the 'state' and say "FORK YOU!" (U know what I mean).

What about the tired old mantra the left trots out for abortion: "This is something to be kept private and confidential between a person and their doctor"?

This may be 'soft' compulsion or whatever the hell the new spin term is, but you just KNOW the long-term plan is to force changes in peoples' lives. In the not-to-distant future, just think of all the pissed off diabetic liberals going into Starbucks when they swipe their card to pay for their double mocha latte's the clerk gets a message saying the NY DOH says I can't sell you that, it's bad for you blood sugar.

This kind of stuff is the true concern of people who are against a big brother society. This example hits everyone in a society group, it's not voluntary (records are sent whether you 'opt-out' of receiving info or not), and you can't do anything to stop your records from being sent.

Who the fork does the NY DOH think it is? It's time to put some biblical fear into these 'public servants' - HEY MORONS - YOU WORK FOR US, WE DON'T ANSWER TO FRIGGIN' YOU!!!

That's the other thing about these libs - they think they're so much better than the common man. Common guy needs to be told what to do - what to eat, what to drink, when to sleep, etc. These friggin libs have little God complexes and want to play the role. "I made a difference today! I prevented 76,432 diabetics from having a donut!

Friggin' hypocritical nany-state big brother faceless bureaucrat paper-pushing condescending know-it-all liberals!!!!!


35 posted on 07/14/2006 6:49:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: joylyn

>>>>Okay, here's a data base that really is an invasion of my privacy.

It is right here:

http://wonder.cdc.gov/data2010/focus.htm

Click on the drop box of the focus areas and see what we will be catalogued on.


36 posted on 07/14/2006 7:43:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I've really got to rent that movie, 1984.


37 posted on 07/14/2006 7:44:59 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>>>does this crap have anything to do with the UN Health 2010 initiative

Absolutely. Remember my thread here?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts
Healthy People 2010

Check out the database I have linked in with the 28 initiatives.

http://wonder.cdc.gov/data2010/focus.htm
DATA2010

This is the database that is suppose to interact with the number assigned to the microchips.


38 posted on 07/14/2006 7:47:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Syntyr
~snip~A new study in France shows that wide swings in glucose levels may damage the body as much as sustained periods of hyperglycemia (high blood glucose).

The finding suggests that diabetes patients should increase their efforts to curb such fluctuations if they want to reduce the risk of complications such as heart disease and damage to the eyes, nerves, and kidneys. It also bolsters the view that continuous glucose monitors and, eventually, an artificial pancreas, could have a tremendous impact on reducing diabetic complications by preventing repeated highs and lows.

The research, led by Louis Monnier, M.D., was conducted at the University of Montpelier and published in the Journal of the American Medical Association (Vol. 295, No. 14, p. 1681, 2006).

The study found that glucose fluctuations trigger "oxidative stress," changes in metabolism that lead to cell damage and cell death and contribute to complications. It was known that hyperglycemia had this effect, but now it appears that repeated highs and lows can be equally damaging.

Previously, chronic hyperglycemia was viewed as the main cause of blood vessel damage. As a result, diabetes care has focused on reducing hemoglobin A1C (HbA1c) levels, which indicate average blood glucose for a two-to-three-month period.

But the Montpelier study underscores that average levels can be misleading. Two people with similar HbA1c levels might have a dramatic difference in the number of glucose "excursions"-when glucose levels depart from normal range and fall too low or rise too high. In recent years, more researchers have concluded that HbA1c readings are not the only measure of good glucose control.

The development of accurate continuous glucose monitors now allows researchers to design experiments that measure glucose fluctuation. The devices can record glucose levels continuously over several days and keep a record of the entire period, making it possible to see how many glucose excursions occur and how drastic they are.

The Montpelier researchers studied 21 patients with diabetes over a three-day period, measuring how often glucose levels went significantly high and low. They found that patients with more glucose fluctuation also had higher levels of a biochemical marker for oxidative stress. Although the study was conducted with type 2 diabetes patients, the findings should apply to type 1 patients as well.

In fact, the correlation between glucose fluctuation and oxidative stress was more direct than the relationship between sustained hyperglycemia and oxidative stress. In other words, glucose fluctuation seems to have a more direct, predictable effect on oxidative stress, and presumably, complications.~snip~

39 posted on 07/14/2006 11:16:20 PM PDT by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: nothingnew
Just give me my SOMA! Now!........oops, sorry komrad, may I please have my SOMA?

If our country keeps going in the direction its going, I'm gonna *NEED* drugs!!

40 posted on 07/14/2006 11:26:16 PM PDT by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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