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National Council of Churches Pres.: Jesus Never said Anything About Homosexuality or Abortion
LifeSiteNews ^ | 13 July 2006 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 07/12/2006 10:43:24 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Forget about traditional morality—Christianity should focus on eradicating poverty, protecting the environment and ending the war in Iraq, according to the general secretary of the National Council of Churches, Dr. Bob Edgar.

“Jesus never said one word about homosexuality, never said one word about civil marriage or abortion,” said Dr. Edgar to CBS News at a recent gathering of liberal Christian leaders in Washington.

The gathering was the latest effort by the “religious left” to gain back some of the political power the group enjoyed during the 60’s and early 70’s. 30 years ago liberal religious leaders used their political influence to lead demonstrations against social injustices such as civil rights abuses and the Vietnam War. Once those issues left the spotlight, liberal Christianity lost focus and faded to the background.

Now, liberal Christian leaders are attempting to stage a return to power, targeting young voters and concentrating on increasing childcare funding and raising the minimum wage. The group wants to build a strong voter base to counter what it calls the “ground game” of the Christian right—the powerful voting block of traditional Christians that has significant influence on the country’s politics.

Finding a unifying message that will allow the group to achieve political clout has been a struggle, observers have said. The New York Times reported in May on an earlier meeting by liberal Christian activists in Washington, a brainstorming session concentrating on identifying the group’s goals.

During a session on ethical sexual behavior, the meeting bypassed discussion of concrete issues such as abortion and same-sex marriage. Instead, Rev. Ama Zenya of First Congregational Church in Oakland, California, directed the gathering to discuss their spiritual values and “to practice fully our authentic being,” reported the Times.

The results of the gathering were disappointing, said liberal Baptist minister Rev. Tony Campolo, who once acted as spiritual adviser to President Bill Clinton, and attended the conference.

“We didn’t get on the same page with everyone, and it is about getting on the same page. The thing about the left is that they want everybody to feel good.”

Dr. Edgar, who has been general secretary of the NCC since 2000, was applauded by homosexual activist organizations shortly after his election for withdrawing his signature from an ecumenical statement in defence of traditional marriage, “A Christian Declaration on Marriage.”

Dr. Edgar also apologized to members of the homosexual community for originally endorsing the document, which was co-signed by the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Southern Baptist Convention, and the National Association of Evangelicals.


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To: wideawake

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

I guess I do not know that God wrote the Bible, I would love to know which version is correct.

Without any other fact to go on (as this is a matter of faith) I take the KJV as the Truth. But I still have doubts, sadly.


181 posted on 07/14/2006 12:25:47 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

NCC = False Prophets.


182 posted on 07/14/2006 12:26:33 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: isaiah55version11_0
Never underestimate the power of the Devil, especially to deceive. I want to believe, more that anything.
183 posted on 07/14/2006 12:30:42 PM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Unassuaged
Satan can not do anything without God’s permission. God is sovereign, Satan is not. Hence as I said God can take care of his own publishing. The more I read it the more this truth sticks out.


Easton's Bible Dictionary Sovereignty Sovereignty of God, his absolute right to do all things according to his own good pleasure (Dan 4:25,35; Rom 9:15-23; 1Ti 6:15; Rev 4:11).


NASB 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;


Easton's Bible Dictionary Word of God Word of God (Heb 4:12, etc.). The Bible so called because the writers of its several books were God's organs in communicating his will to men. It is his "word," because he speaks to us in its sacred pages. Whatever the inspired writers here declare to be true and binding upon us, God declares to be true and binding. This word is infallible, because written under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and therefore free from all error of fact or doctrine or precept. (See Inspiration; Bible) All saving knowledge is obtained from the word of God. In the case of adults it is an indispensable means of salvation, and is efficacious thereunto by the gracious influence of the Holy Spirit (Joh 17:17; 2Ti 3:15,16; 1Pe 1:23).

184 posted on 07/14/2006 1:16:07 PM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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To: Unassuaged
I guess I do not know that God wrote the Bible, I would love to know which version is correct. Without any other fact to go on (as this is a matter of faith) I take the KJV as the Truth. But I still have doubts, sadly.

You would then need to know how to read greek and hebrew, since those were the languages it was written in. What we have in many forms (NIV, KJV, NASV, etc) are translations. Please take time to research the methodology of the different translations and generally you'll find they are either literal or paraphrase translations. In the case of the KJV, it was based upon the Vulgate, translation of the greek/hebrew into latin.

185 posted on 07/14/2006 1:24:35 PM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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