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Axing Sex, Swearing From Films Violates Copyright: Court
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Posted on 07/10/2006 8:14:23 AM PDT by steve-b

Deleting swearing, sex and violence from films on DVD or VHS violates copyright laws, a U.S. judge has ruled in a decision that could end controversial sanitizing done for some video-rental chains, cable services and the internet.

The ruling stemmed from a lawsuit brought by 16 U.S. directors — including Steven Spielberg, Robert Redford and Martin Scorsese — against three Utah-based companies that "scrub" films.

Judge Richard P. Matsch decreed on Thursday in Denver, Colo., that sanitizing movies to delete content that may offend some people is an "illegitimate business."

The judge also praised the motives of the Hollywood studios and directors behind the suit, ordering the companies that provide the service to hand over their inventories....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: copyright; copyrightabuse; hollywood; lawsuit
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To: TChris

This was apparently what this case involved. Copyright holders routinely grant permission (for a fee) to abridge their works but get madder than a wet hen about those doing it sans permission (or fee).


201 posted on 07/10/2006 9:45:44 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: CedarDave

The TV stations are given permission to edit it from the studio.


202 posted on 07/10/2006 9:46:35 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Borges

"This goes beyond politics. Legislating little nooks and crannies paves the way for doing away with copyright altogether."

I highly doubt that. I keep hearing the same lame arguments why it should not be allowed, but when you transfer those arguments to other products (buying a car and modifying it), the arguments fall flat on their face because it is bad logic.


203 posted on 07/10/2006 9:47:25 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: A. Goodwin

Actualy finger painting sound intriguing...LOL


204 posted on 07/10/2006 9:47:33 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's NOT, till over it IS....... Yoda Berra)
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To: AmericanDave
That's one of my Cardinal rules: never paint clothes on a nude!
205 posted on 07/10/2006 9:47:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: TChris

Probably, it would depend on how they present and advertise the service. If they present it as "let us clean up your movies for you" they'd be OK, but if they presented it as "get cleaned up movies here" there could still be troubles. When navigating through legal loopholes it's important to respect the stuff around the loophole.


206 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:00 AM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: linda_22003
"I'm aware of that, but the Republicans are not going to do battle with the whole body of copyright law just to appear pro-family."

No battle required. It will pass easily, as it should and there will be no damage to copyright law.
207 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:03 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: MineralMan

To quote Animal House, "Forget it.... he's rollin'....!"


208 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:31 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: lepton

Well, you have to have SOME standards!


209 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:39 AM PDT by AmericanDave (Over it's NOT, till over it IS....... Yoda Berra)
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To: Hendrix

It's not rocket science. It's also NOT the law you said should be passed.


210 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:57 AM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: KarlInOhio
I wonder how the "You're one ugly motherf**ker" line was edited in Predator and Predator 2

My favorite "for TV" movie edit was Speed when aired on FOX.

Original Version

Keanu : You F**K!

Edited Version

Keanu : You FOOL! (Oviously voiced over by somebody who vaguely sounded Hispanic.)
211 posted on 07/10/2006 9:50:07 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Hendrix

That's because the car example is the same as "your personal copy for fair use". If you start modifying all the cars you can, that's a problem. Your own is fair game.


212 posted on 07/10/2006 9:51:08 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Hendrix

Right. E-mail Mr. Rove with that idea, and let us know what he says. We'll wait here. ;-D


213 posted on 07/10/2006 9:52:08 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Hendrix

With a car the difference is that the person modifying it isn't making a copy of it.


214 posted on 07/10/2006 9:52:45 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Onelifetogive

That is exactly what Clear Play machines do. They are wonderful. I use the full set of filters when my children are watching, and just a few when I watch.


215 posted on 07/10/2006 9:53:34 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: discostu
you've just destroyed the entire concept of copyright,

The entire concept of copyright is that it is easier and cheaper to duplicate a work than it is to come up with the work in the first place, and thus to encourage innovation, the original innovator's investment is protected from mass production of their works wherein they are not compensated. Buying and editing a work, where the originator is compensated for their product, and the editor compensated for their work, is entirely in keeping with the concept of copyright.

216 posted on 07/10/2006 9:53:39 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: discostu

"It's not rocket science. It's also NOT the law you said should be passed."

I am in favor of passing a law to allow it. However, if one really wanted to stay within the current law (which is that I can buy a car and take it to someone to alter it), then I say just have places where people can buy a DVD and have it altered on the spot. You were the one who pointed out that the law only allows the buyer to alter it AFTER they buy it. That is when I came back with it is not rocket science to simply buy it and have it altered on the spot.


217 posted on 07/10/2006 9:54:16 AM PDT by Hendrix
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To: weegee
Ditto for Brokeback Mountain.

I'm sure Bareback Mountain would be edited down until no footage at all would be left. :)
218 posted on 07/10/2006 9:54:40 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: IamConservative
Once you cut out the sex, violence and language, most movies would only last 15 minutes.

Down at the XXX video rental a lot, huh?

219 posted on 07/10/2006 9:55:01 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Borges

"With a car the difference is that the person modifying it isn't making a copy of it."

Well, then don't make a copy of it. Simple as that.


220 posted on 07/10/2006 9:55:19 AM PDT by Hendrix
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