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- Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

Fueled by the work of scholars and lawyers, their campaign has morphed in recent years from a fringe-group rallying cry into sophisticated, mainstream movement. Most recently, a pair of churches apologized for their part in the slave trade, and one is studying ways to repay black church members.

The overall issue is hardly settled, even among black Americans: Some say that focusing on slavery shouldn't be a top priority or that it doesn't make sense to compensate people generations after a historical wrong.

Yet reparations efforts have led a number of cities and states to approve measures that force businesses to publicize their historical ties to slavery. Several reparations court cases are in progress, and international human rights officials are increasingly spotlighting the issue.

"This matter is growing in significance rather than declining," said Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist. "It has more vigor and vitality in the 21st century than it's had in the history of the reparations movement."

1 posted on 07/09/2006 6:03:18 PM PDT by JingoJim
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Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

No, they're not. This is purely wishful thinking, an outright lie. This movement is as dead as the ERA.

2 posted on 07/09/2006 6:05:56 PM PDT by IronJack
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I guess that I would support reparations if we took the money from the places where the slaves were bought, and paid them to the nations where the slaves were shipped.

That way all Americans, of all heritage (Natives, African, Asian, and European) benefit from penalizing the African nations who benefited by sending their kinsmen into bondage.


3 posted on 07/09/2006 6:08:06 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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Yeah, will all those slaves in America please step forward and be counted....uh, you mean they are all dead?? I don't see any slaves...do you???

It is like me saying to Britain, I want reparations from you because my great, great grandfather was oppressed and repressed by you!!!

Total freakin' liberal insanity, as usual. The hard work of the liberal left continues to MANUAFACTURE ITS NEEDED VICTIMS. Their lifeblood, along with confiscatory taxation and equal spending.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:05 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Hummmm
OK, but lets be fair about it.
FIRST, the Africans need to pay reparations to the Jews for their slavery.
6 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:46 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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This is pure BS and I for one will stop paying taxes if this were to happen.

The slaves were sold into slavery by black, African chieftains. Many American blacks probably wouldn't be alive today if their ancestors hadn't been sold (due to disease and war in their native countries).

Don't get me wrong. I'm against slavery of any kind, but this is despicable!

And while we're on the subject, how about reparations for people who have Cherokee ancestors who were forced off their lands and became part of the Trail of Tears?
7 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:52 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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Yeah, gaining momentum. Give it another 300 years, and perhaps then it will become reality. Just think of 600 years of interest to what will then be a billion eligible Americans.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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I demand reparations for 5 Trillon Dollars in welfare to support blacks. I also demand reparations for bringing them to the greatest nation on earth. They could still be fighting to survive in Rwanda, The Sudan, Somalia.......... The ones that are here now are the lucky ones.

On another note. I refuse to pay one dime. I never owned a slave. No one in my family ever owned a slave. My ancestry had nothing to do with it, so why should I pay?

Another liberal idea that will backfire. You want an increase in racism and racist groups like the KKK, and other White Supremacy groups, force everyone to pay blacks.
11 posted on 07/09/2006 6:13:51 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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I don't have any problem with businesses who have had ties to slavery being sued by those who can prove that their ancestors did not receive compensation for work done but I don't support reparations in a general sense. It has long been time to move on. Those that committed the wrongs have turned to dust and those who wait for pay outs to address past wrongs are short changing themselves and their children. People who wish to succeed don't let past wrongs hold them back but instead like many of the first free blacks paid for their freedom many times over and were empowered by their faith in God not the goodwill of governments and men.


13 posted on 07/09/2006 6:15:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If someone screams in an asylum full of lunatics do they make a sound?)
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I think I finally figured out the reparations plan. Liberals are already successful in legislating in the present and future to take our money. Now they are trying to legislate the past and redistribute more money.
17 posted on 07/09/2006 6:22:24 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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Ah, it's that time of year again.

The Dog Days of Summer, wherein loopy topics like this are elevated to national prominence while everyone's away on vacation.

18 posted on 07/09/2006 6:22:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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NO

19 posted on 07/09/2006 6:23:21 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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Figure out the average annual income of a black person in the USA vs. same for one in Africa. I want my share of the difference from every black American if in fact my ancestors are responsible for bringing them here.


21 posted on 07/09/2006 6:23:56 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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The slaves are dead and the people/corporations that used them are dead ....it was a bygone era ..... we are not beholding to them .... why should this generation pay for that generation???? And then too, who gets taxpayer's money??


22 posted on 07/09/2006 6:24:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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Arab slave traders sold their ancestors into slavery, so they should get all the middle eastern oil money.


27 posted on 07/09/2006 6:30:57 PM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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"This matter is growing in significance rather than declining," said Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist. "It has more vigor and vitality in the 21st century than it's had in the history of the reparations movement."




He means it's going from none to slim and slim ain't around.


31 posted on 07/09/2006 6:39:29 PM PDT by Blackirish (Merry Fitzmas !!)
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Some of my ancestors were murdered, raped and enslaved when the moors from North Africa sacked Sicily, can I get some reparations from them?


32 posted on 07/09/2006 6:40:18 PM PDT by infidel29 ("Growing old is inevitable ... growing UP is optional.")
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I'm all for reparations - as long as they're figured net of the entire cost of the Union war effort in current dollars, including a reasonable figure for the Union dead. My rough math suggests that black Americans are probably net debtors on the cost of freeing them.


33 posted on 07/09/2006 6:42:15 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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Only in a pig's dream.


34 posted on 07/09/2006 6:43:52 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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Mid-term elections are coming up. Time to roil the base.


36 posted on 07/09/2006 6:45:23 PM PDT by kabar
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Slavery Reparations Gaining Momentum

Well, if they don't hurry up the last living person to have been a slave in the United States will have died...

Oh, wait a minute... That was 1865?

37 posted on 07/09/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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