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Excellent read on the effect of Liberalism on religion. Did you really expect it to be anything other than a disaster when the fringe is allowed to take over?
1 posted on 07/09/2006 4:41:40 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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TonyRo76, please ping the Lutheran Ping List!

It's very disconcerting to see the number of churches and other religious organizations (e.g., the local branch of the American Bible Society) in our blue state area that claim that they represent "progressive Christianity", and not that "bigoted", "boring" and "outmoded" orthodox or fundamentalist variety. Even several ELCA Lutheran churches that I used to belong to when I lived in other parts of the country also raise the banner of "progressive Christianity", and hold forums and seminars on such "theologians" as Spong and Borg.

The there is the threefold "progressive" progam of our ELCA mis-leaders in Chicago, including the feminazi, anti-Trinitarian new hymnal, "how-to-read-the Bible-like-a-"progressive", and the ever metastasizing gaysbian agenda. Our mis-leaders also have no plans to abrogate the "full communion" agreements with the fast-disintegrating and heretcal Episcopal and Presbyterian/UCC, etc.. "churches" either.

I have news for all these instututions and people. "Progressive Christianity" is no more Christianity than same-sex "marriage" is marriage!!!! As my Serbian Orthodox priest says, "progressive" "churches" are not churches, but CLUBS!!!! It is "Progressive Christianity" that is boring and outmoded--it is stuck in the 1970s!!!!

"Progressive Christianity" has NO appeal to anyone younger that the youngest Boomers. They are just plain NOT INTERESTED in 1970's issues like neutering or feminizing God-language, or those BORING 1970s-style "liturgies" and "hymns". And many younger people go beyond that, by being interested in orthodox (or even Orthodox) Christianity!!!!

"Progressive Christianity" is totally BOGUS, and headed for the scrap-heap! And the election of Jefferts-Schori and the shenannigans at that Presbyterian convention have acclerated the decline and eventual death of "Progressive Christianity" by at least a decade!!!!

76 posted on 07/09/2006 3:29:45 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Liberalism will corrupt everything it touches.


80 posted on 07/09/2006 6:02:41 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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marking thread place


90 posted on 07/09/2006 8:39:24 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (It takes ideas and optimism to win elections. The DemocRATS have neither.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Yet another example of Liberal destruction...



96 posted on 07/09/2006 9:21:18 PM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

A very powerful piece. The effort to reduce the church to a social organization among the liberals is rendering their churches useless. If people just want a social organization, there are plenty of those that people can participate in and sleep in on Sunday mornings. These churches are increasingly standing for nothing, so there is becoming less and less of a reason for people to participate in them.


98 posted on 07/09/2006 11:12:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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"Embraced by the leadership of all the mainline Protestant denominations ..."

Not ALL. Many. Baptists aren't at all as liberal as Episcopalians.
104 posted on 07/10/2006 5:28:25 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Liberalism of this nature will ALWAYS lead to destruction.


105 posted on 07/10/2006 5:29:16 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Liberal Christians are like Libertarian Godless Conservatives.


107 posted on 07/10/2006 5:34:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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I find it hard to believe what is going on with many contemporary churches. Many are taking the word Christian out of their names, if it was there in the first place. Ending up with something like Eastpointe which always reminds me of a rather pretentious doctor's office. And the music! Rock concert, earplugs needed. And the message, what message? Just a list of the social happenings for the next week and a few vague references to the souls saved in Mexico or somewhere (somewhere far away and unverifiable). Oh and let's not forget the Mission Statement, which reads like a environmentalist dream. Sickening!


154 posted on 07/10/2006 8:34:39 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

In an effort to promote accuracy in these posts please refer to the left wing, heretical Presbyterian church as the PCUSA, all of us in the conservative PCA (Presbyterian Church in America) don't like being wrapped up in the same newspaper.


169 posted on 07/10/2006 11:39:47 AM PDT by P8riot ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I was an Elder in the PC USA. I left this whacked-out denomination in 1991 and have never regretted it. The Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) is a great Evangilical denomination.


194 posted on 07/10/2006 3:03:31 PM PDT by wjcsux (I would prefer to have the German army in front of me than the French army behind me- Gen. G. Patton)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Following the Episcopalian lead, the Presbyterians also voted to give local congregations the freedom to ordain openly cohabiting gay and lesbian ministers and endorsed the legalization of medical marijuana.

Why does the phrase "race to the bottom" keep intruding into my thoughts as I read this.

196 posted on 07/10/2006 3:22:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I Timothy 4:1-2, Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times Episcopalians, Presybterians, some Lutherans, definitely the Mormons and the JWs and especially the Muslims etc. etc. shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


198 posted on 07/10/2006 5:20:18 PM PDT by BigFinn
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My Episcopal Church is pulling out. It is not liberal in the least.
201 posted on 07/10/2006 5:24:41 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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