China Deploys Nuclear Submarines...Capable of Nuclear Counterstrike(Thank you Clinton)

JoongAng Ilbo ^ | 07/07/06

[TigerLikesRooster]

/begin my translation

China Deploys Nuclear Submarines...Capable of Nuclear Counterstrike

Hong Kong's Xin-bao reported on July 7th that China has deployed next-generation nuclear submarines and is capable of second nuclear counterstrike.

German military publication 'International Navy' reported that China officially deployed recently-developed Type 093 and 094 nuclear submarines, and conducted training exercises. They are in combat-deployment now, according to the publication.

It said that Type 094, Tang-class, is the improved version of Xia-class nuclear submarine, with 10,000-ton displacement, and can carry 16 Julang-2 SLBM's which have the range of 10,000 km. Each Julang-2 can have three nuclear-warheads, which means that a single Type 094 submarine can strike 48 targets simultaneously.

Type 094 has fourth-generation nuclear reactor and is equipped with noise-suppression feature and precision sonar capability. It has superior stealth, mobility, and survivability, which is rated as comparable to Ohio-class submarine of U.S.

Type 093 is an attack submarine with 7,150 ton displacement , whose design is based on Han-class submarine.

If their deployment is successful, Chinese nuclear capability will expand from land-based nukes to second nuclear counterstrike, according to this publication.

People's Daily, Chinese official communist party paper, featured an article on its Internet site about the submarines on July 6th, which is a de-facto confirmation of their deployment.

/end my translation

[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[Cinnamon]

it is heartbreaking.. look at what 8 years of Clinton gave us... China fully nuclear now, NK on the verge of becoming one. that bastard!

[nw_arizona_granny]

Thanks for the ping.......To Tiger

[Strategerist]

Ummm...a few things here.

This is essentially PRC propaganda. Their first generation SSBN was an embarrassing disaster - it doesn't even leave port. Just because the article gives you what you perceive is a fun axe to grind doesn't mean you ignore the sourcing.

And where did you get the idea that PLAN SSBN technology has much at all to do with Clinton?

It's overwhelmingly based on Russian technology, but I know it's not nearly as much fun to blame it on them. Hate to break it to you, but it's not like the Chinese military would be armed with rocks and pointed sticks were it not for Clinton.

The Chinese first had missles tipped with nuclear warheads aimed at US cities in the Reagan Administration.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #5

It is MIRV technology I referred to. Julang-2 is MIRV.

[maine-iac7]

look at what 8 years of Clinton gave us... China fully nuclear now, NK on the verge of becoming one. that bastard!

Truly frightening.

Carter started the ball rolling with creating the image of the U.S. as weak and bumbling (Iran hostages, only action was sending 3 helicopters, from a military he had decimated, that crashed into each other in the desert - then sat in the Rose Garden all but comatose for months.

Clinton/Albright/et al make a sweetheart deal with No.Korea (sweetheart for them) - whereby we send them millions each year in return for not developing the nuke...and then never thought to check up on it.

Then the reports of hundreds of thousands of campaign contributions from the Chinese in return for technology that they have, evidently - big surprise - put to good use. (And NO investigation of these illegal transactions, let alone charges) -

And Bin Laden struck because he had gotten away with striking many times before, with little to no retaliation....Sadam - etc etc.

WE have a president now who understands the danger, wont molly coddle tyrants, won't cut and run like the dimWits did in 'nam - and everyone vilifies him and aids the enemy.

I am reminded that we sold scrap mettle to Japan before WW11 - that built bullets, bombs, Kamikazes and battleships...

frightening times again

[DaBadGuy]

I'm tired of blaming X42 for everything that happens (although he deserves it). Why don't we just start kicking some ass?

[Rane _H]

"It has superior stealth, mobility, and survivability, which is rated as comparable to Ohio-class submarine of U.S."

I'm not trying to underestimate the enemy here and I'm no sub afficionado, but isn't the Ohio class that gigantic type of sub we developed for the Cold War? I think we stopped making it ten or fifteen years ago. Leads me to believe the above isn't much of a complement. Or am I dead wrong?

[maine-iac7]

I'm tired of blaming X42 for everything that happens (although he deserves it). Why don't we just start kicking some ass?

I agree.

If they just stop blaming Bush for everything "X42" did - we wouldn't have to keep reminding people -

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #10

It is just saying that China is doing well compared with other countries, excluding the top two, U.S. and Russia.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Refer to the following FR post on 09/29/2003:

Judicial Watch Uncovers Clinton Nuclear Tech Transfer to China

/begin excerpt

U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes

Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.

The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.

As part of this upgrade, the Chinese army is also modifying its nuclear warhead designs to arm new survivable missiles such as the DF-31 and JL-2. Chinese engineers are planning to equip these new missiles with MIRV technology, allowing each missile to carry multiple nuclear warheads.

Again, the U.S. radiation hardened computer chip technology is a logical addition to the reconfiguration and upgrade of Chinese nuclear weapons.

/end excerpt

[Cinnamon]

yes, but they had not perfected the gyroscope guidance system.. which is needed for accurate delivery that is until Clinton made it available via Loreal corp..

[Iris7]

What you say is, of course, true. However, the Chinese did not get from Russia the effective and compact nuclear warhead designs needed for submarine IRBM use. The Russians are not so foolish as that. Instead those design techniques, and indeed, designs, came straight from the Clinton administration.

The Russians also withheld crucial ICBM-IRBM technologies. The Clinton administration did not.

The net effect was to move the Chinese from early 1950s nuclear weapons delivery systems almost into (depends on what "almost" means in this context!) a Polaris era capability. China received enough other technology (that we have not seen them use as yet) to move into a 1990s level state of the art. A great deal of effort is now necessary to ensure reasonable military superiority.

The Clinton administration has in effect cost the country trillions of dollars and years of development time.

Water under the bridge, of course.

[sinoguy]

"China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles"

well,so was it in early 1990's,but now it is 2006.
case has changed much.

chinese nuke arsenals is the emphasis of its military-buildup,apart with navy and airforce.

in fact ,the progress of chinese military powers lie in the advancement of its mili-tech,not the increase of its mordern mili-equitment.

for example,in the past one decades,093&094 nuke sub,J10,041&039a sub have emerged and many people are amazed at that.
but the emergence of those platform is just the corner of ice.the more important is chinese grasp of some key mili-tech,such as MIRV,AGIS ,turbofan-engine and so on.

[Anvilhead]

I thought our new subs were the Virginia class.

[SampleMan]

Your'e wrong.

[xrp]

Virginia class are SSNs, attack submarines.

[Calpernia]

ping