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VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?
Georgia Dawg

Posted on 07/06/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg

Hi all....

FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.

Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.

While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...

Georgia Dawg


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chitchat; vanity
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To: kellynch

Yes, the are now open in New York on Sunday, but the legislature also raised the cost of the license to make up for it.


201 posted on 07/06/2006 12:53:48 PM PDT by mjustice
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To: Protagoras

Very well, I believe that you are a Christian, as am I. And for the record, I don't think drinking alcohol is in itself immoral (although I don't do it), because that position isn't supported by scripture, but I do support certain traditions related to business on Sundays.


202 posted on 07/06/2006 12:53:59 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: linda_22003

"So fill us in, what do blue laws have to do with Japanese bombs???"

Ping to 184.


203 posted on 07/06/2006 12:54:21 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
That's all. I apologize if my references confused anyone.

As for me, I am not confused.

The topic is whether or not laws which violate rights are acceptable in a free society. The laws are designed to compel some people to conform to the desires of some other people, at gunpoint if necessary.

204 posted on 07/06/2006 12:54:51 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: BritExPatInFla
Maybe to a christian it is.

You say that like it is some sort of a put-down. And I'm sure to you it is. What I am tired of is people like you who have this superior attitude and put down christians. The whole world should revolve around your selfish wants and desires. You have no respect for anyone or anything. The as I posted earlier the point of blue laws is to put some restraint on those who have none themselves. A category which you are squarely in. And no I'm not a christian, but do have some respect for those who are.

205 posted on 07/06/2006 12:54:57 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg
When I was a wild and incorrigible yewt....we used to drive to OK...from KS on Sunday to buy beer.
206 posted on 07/06/2006 12:55:01 PM PDT by Osage Orange (It's an easy game...this business of making money.)
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To: linda_22003

I'll take your word for it. I've never comparison shopped hotel bars.


207 posted on 07/06/2006 12:55:29 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Ouderkirk

Why are you "blue noses" so damned obnoxious?

If I want a beer on sunday morning,

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ME I CAN'T?


208 posted on 07/06/2006 12:56:17 PM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: absolootezer0

I think the best solution is the Chick Fil A theory...they have every right to be open on Sunday, but choose not to. They don't lose anything by only being open six days a week, but probably gain customers. It's their choice, though.


209 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:14 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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To: Xenalyte

because the preaching people are scared the flock will get drunk and not go to church.


210 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:27 PM PDT by old gringo
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To: Froufrou; MineralMan; NinoFan
Of course, if you are careful not to offend, or you are dining with Baptists, you may opt for flowers or loaves of French bread. ;o)

Are you kidding? Baptists love coming over to my house. It's the ONLY chance they get to drink!

211 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:31 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Protagoras

"The topic is whether or not laws which violate rights are acceptable in a free society. The laws are designed to compel some people to conform to the desires of some other people, at gunpoint if necessary."

That is not the topic, not at all. The topic is specifically limited to Blue Laws.


212 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:31 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: GeorgiaDawg

VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?



The purpose of blue laws is "control" of the community imho.

Therefore these types of laws are in direct opposition to the individual liberty defined by our founding fathers.

Blue laws = anti-American and bad


213 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:53 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: Larry Lucido

Have you ever looked into how restrictive things were in colonial America? Those people were dealing with a brand new world, severe weather, little food, and hostile natives, and yet people were harshly punished for things like profanity. 18 and 19th Century America were certainly more liberal than that, but still way more restrictive than our world today. You are right concerning the alcohol focus, yet there were major restrictions on practices on Sunday in general.


214 posted on 07/06/2006 12:57:53 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Larry Lucido

~giggle!~ It's pretty hard to NOT find a Baptist in TX who at least drinks beer!


215 posted on 07/06/2006 12:58:31 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: NinoFan
but I do support certain traditions related to business on Sundays.

I do not support any laws, traditional or not, that violate the rights of people for the benefit of other people.

Elected officials enact such laws in return for power by pandering to certain groups of people.

The concept is simple, they will use force in return for power. Not very Christian in my view.

216 posted on 07/06/2006 12:59:08 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Bigh4u2
I thought the point was made mute by Jesus

It was made deaf, dumb and blind, too. And moot. :-)

217 posted on 07/06/2006 12:59:26 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GeorgiaDawg
My guess is that Blue Laws originally reflected the moral character and will of the community. They were not imposed on the citizens but, rather, reflected and were consistent with widespead beliefs and values.

Today, those values are lost or mocked. The result is that Blue Laws are now viewed as an imposition of morality.

I am for putting it to a vote at the local level. The results will tell you a lot about each community.

218 posted on 07/06/2006 12:59:38 PM PDT by Pete
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To: TonyRo76

I think "blue laws" pertaining to alcohol are hypocritical, misguided, and an excuse for meddlesome bureaucrats to intrude where they don't belong.


One more reason that I will write in "TonyRo76" for Ohio Governor and Ohio Senator in November.


219 posted on 07/06/2006 1:00:12 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: John D

John D wrote: Restaurants here in N. GA are at a big disadvantage trying to compete with Chattanooga. Most people who are going out for an expensive meal want to have a drink to go with it...

I would disagree with that...restaurants here in North GA (I'm in Dalton)aren't suffering because they can't serve alcohol on Sundays. People don't go to Chattanooga on a Sunday because they can get alcohol with dinner. They go because there are added attractions like going to a ballgame, TN Aquarium, art district, etc.


220 posted on 07/06/2006 1:00:16 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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