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Brit Hume: Flag-burning ban fails by one vote (to be discussed on the "All Star" panel)
FoxNewsChannel ^ | 6-27-06 | DTogo

Posted on 06/27/2006 3:49:32 PM PDT by DTogo

Brit Hume just mentioned it.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; clintonistas; congress; flag; flagburning
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To: DTogo
Do we ever. I found a great .jpg; I don't know where else to post it, might as well post it here.


81 posted on 06/27/2006 4:56:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: OldFriend
"How about burning crosses, that okay?

Burning a koran?"

If you own them and burn them on your property, in a safe way, it's legal.
82 posted on 06/27/2006 4:56:38 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Good. I'd rather not see the Constitution amended for something like this.

I agree. For the same reason as the gay marriage amendment.

From a personal perspective, if I saw someone desecrating an American Flag, I'd be in jail for attempted manslaughter.

83 posted on 06/27/2006 4:58:29 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: TexasTaysor
Too many men (and now some women) have fought, spilled blood and many died for that flag (past or present).

They didn't die for the flag, they died for the country.

Or are we counting flags with 13 stars, or Stars and Bars, or 48 stars, or ones with snakes on them that say "Don't Tread On Me", or ...

84 posted on 06/27/2006 5:00:59 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: AmericaUnited

Unfortunately, this President is not securing our borders, and is instead doing the same sort of half-hearted pandering to the Hispanic vote that the Dems do.

I support Constitutional amendments to ban both queer marriage and flag-burning; but I also believe in priorities, and those two fall well below stopping the bleeding at our damned border.


85 posted on 06/27/2006 5:01:34 PM PDT by Gorobei
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To: bnelson44
I am just pointing out that this flag burning stuff has nothing to do with the Constitution and can be handed by a good law and good justices in the SCOTUS.

Let me phrase it this way:

The purpose of the Constitution is to define the form and operation of our government, and to define limits to the powers of that government.

It is NOT a criminal code.

Flag burning, to me, belongs in the criminal code, not in the document that defines the shape of our government.

It's up to the Congress and the judicial branch to determine if a law against flag burning is within the powers of the government, but I would NOT amend the constitution to give the government a new power like this one where none existed before.

86 posted on 06/27/2006 5:03:08 PM PDT by EvilOverlord (Socialism makes workers into slaves and couch potatoes into kings)
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To: glorgau
The whole flag burning issue is so stupid. So what if someone burns a flag? They've proven that they are an idiot.
You've just made my point. When people don't have any more respect for our flag than is shown in this statement, that's why I think there should be an amendment to protect the flag.
87 posted on 06/27/2006 5:03:59 PM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: 1rudeboy
"As a staunch conservative, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he doesn’t carry any deep affection for “bearded, sandal-wearing weirdos” who choose to express their First Amendment rights by burning the American flag.

However, as an originalist – one who interprets the U.S. Constitution based on the meaning it held when it was originally adopted more than 200 years ago -- burning the American flag is a protected right, Scalia told more than 1,200 people at William and Mary Hall.

“It’s protected by the First Amendment,” said Scalia, explaining why he joined the high court’s majority in the opinion that flag burning is a protected form of political expression. “If you play the old way, you often have to reach decisions you don’t enjoy.”"

--- Justice Scalia speaks at W&M
Author: Brian Whitson, W&M News
Date: Mar 21, 2004

88 posted on 06/27/2006 5:04:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders; enforce employer sanctions; stop welfare handouts to illegals)
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To: Shermy

89 posted on 06/27/2006 5:04:19 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Soul Seeker

McConnell has ALWAYS voted against the flag amendment. Says it is pure free speech, which is the same reason he is the leader in the anti-Campaign Finance Reform fights -- he says contributing money for a candidate is pure free speech.


90 posted on 06/27/2006 5:05:16 PM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: Cobra64

oh please.


91 posted on 06/27/2006 5:05:56 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ArrogantBustard

There are men, and there are those who are willing to put up with a fair amount of bad behavior.

Watch this video.

It is what one man did who was not willing to put up with that.

(cut and paste into browser)

mms://a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/library/open/features/monday_flag_350.wmv?media_type=wms&av_type=video&event_pk=486348&product=gen_video


or go here and the link is just below the schedule.


http://www.patriotguard.org/Forums/tabid/61/forumid/21/postid/104528/view/topic/Default.aspx


92 posted on 06/27/2006 5:06:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I will go down with this ship, and I won't put my hands up in surrender.)
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To: glorgau

The flag represents the country.....and as I said in my earlier post, it doesn't matter if the flag has thirteen stars or fifty, they either are or have been the flag that represents this country.


93 posted on 06/27/2006 5:06:29 PM PDT by TexasTaysor
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To: Reagan Man

I think I remember Scalia once saying (maybe on C-SPAN) that the morning after the decision, he walked into his kitchen and his wife started humming "You're a Grand Old Flag" or something similar.


94 posted on 06/27/2006 5:07:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: UCANSEE2

I am not in favor of burning the flag. Rick Monday should be hailed for what he did. I am a patriot. Someone just implied that I was a jihadist. ROTFLMAO!


However, I am opposed to more government. That's the only thing that would come of the flag burning issue.


95 posted on 06/27/2006 5:08:26 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: EvilOverlord

I agree with you. However, we now have in impass between two branches and we need to find a solution. My solution is to get better justices on the SCOTUS.


96 posted on 06/27/2006 5:08:30 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: 1rudeboy
Real close. From the same article:

"The morning after the decision, Scalia said, he came downstairs at his house and saw a Washington Post on the kitchen table. On the front page was a headline about the courts decision to protect flag burning. His wife, Maureen -- who Scalia said is more conservative than he is -- was fixing breakfast and humming “Stars and Stripes Forever.” "

97 posted on 06/27/2006 5:10:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders; enforce employer sanctions; stop welfare handouts to illegals)
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To: UCANSEE2
Already seen it ... Your point is what, exactly?

Oh, yes.

You don't have one.

That's OK. Some people are impressed by bluster.

I'm not.

Come back if, as, or when you have a rational, logical reason why a free society should make repulsive behaviour a matter of Constitutional Law.

98 posted on 06/27/2006 5:16:18 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Some of you Souvrn'rs still pushin' for the pre-eminence of property rights over everything else.

Look, you lost the war, the slaves got freed, and it's time to get over it and move on.

99 posted on 06/27/2006 5:16:43 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Once again ~ the USSC made their decision in the face of the flag in question having been the property of the federal government (as a material item). It was stolen from a post office.

The USSC didn't particularly care who owned it ~ they wanted it burned.

100 posted on 06/27/2006 5:19:25 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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