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House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 (Utah GOP Exec. Dir. says good chance Cannon could go down)
National Journal: The Hotline ^ | 27 June 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:37:28 AM PDT by Spiff

House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 Some quotes to illustrate the importance of this race.

"There is a very good chance that he could go down," Jeff Hartley, executive director of the Utah Republican Party, tells First Read. "You wouldn't have the involvement from the White House if he weren't in jeopardy." (NBC News)

Consultant LeVarr Webb: "A low turnout is expected, so be one of the few who make a difference and have a voice." (Utah Policy Daily) )

UT GOP Chair Joe Cannon "says he's trying to stay neutral" in his brother's UT 03 primary, "but it didn't come across that way" in his online comments about challenger/alleged Satan victim John Jacob (Salt Lake Tribune).

A poll published over the weekend by the Deseret Morning News and KSL-TV, conducted by Dan Jones & Associates, found Cannon ahead — 46-33 percent among registered voters in the 3rd District. But 18 percent of voters remained undecided. "That's one of the highest 'undecideds' numbers I've seen so close to a primary election," said Jones, who has polled in Utah for more than 30 years. (Deseret News)

Jacob backtracks on his "Satan" comments: "What the [Salt Lake Tribune] reported and what I said weren't the same thing. It wasn't that [the devil] was trying to keep me out of Washington. I was just saying when you're trying to get into politics, there's a lot of adversity. … Contrary to reports of saying it was keeping me from being there, it was going to help me in training when I get there. It's not the devil; it's adversity." (Utah Policy Daily)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; cannon; chriscannon; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; jacob; mmp; predictions; provo; satan; utah
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To: catholicfreeper
First off that heritage report is garbage those numbers come from When the entire population of Mexico is just 107 million that should tell us that we are not going to have 66 to 100 million people hear in 20 years

Illegal immigrants come from many countries besides Mexico. Most illegals also have a high birth rate. Chain migration would allow them to bring in all sorts of relatives, and other seldom discussed provisions allow most anyone to apply for a more liberal "refugee" status. We would have tens of millions of illegals here if McCain Kennedy passed. believe it or not.

Second, I am not aware of any proposal that gives amnesty or a full pardon. I am aware of proposals that say after paying fines, taxes keeping ones nose clean for 12 to 15 years, learning English and other conditions that one can apply to become a citizen.

In the meantime they get to stay and work here, and are not forced to leave, which is the minimum penalty for illegal entry.

I am not familiar with any proposals that give amnesty. A full pardon and full forgiveness.

So what do you call it when someone breaks the law and is rewarded with the right to stay and work here ahead of everyone else who didn't break the law? This has been pointed out to you may times and you refuse to listen.

If you want to help these poor people out, I suggest you join the Peace Core and help them in their own country. If I wanted to live in a third world crap hole I would move there, I certainly don't want it to move here and limit my choices. Buy a clue, crime and corruption are all they we will get from the third world countries, there is no benefit to us unless we have absolute control on who comes and goes, and for how long. Its called Sovereignty.

341 posted on 06/27/2006 6:24:50 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

Good one!


342 posted on 06/27/2006 6:27:54 PM PDT by arosebyanyothername (God Works When We Believe)
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To: AmishDude

I know it's hard for you to understand.
You actually have to live and vote in a state thats RED ...especially one that ended AlGore's Presidential ambitions. Unfortunately you have not experienced
what it's like to vote against the Homestate boy (AlGORE) and watch him lose the Presidency of The US.

Ahhhh Nothing replaces the experience.
Thats conservative, my Amish friend.


343 posted on 06/27/2006 6:28:22 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: AmishDude

When do the polls close?


344 posted on 06/27/2006 6:30:50 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: rolling_stone

I am familar with the concept of Sovernety. Also I know its pretty silly that any other proposal that does not punish people who came here illegally by deporting them or starving them over the border never ever to return is called amnesty.

Besides such proposals if enacted would kill us as the public saw it live on TV. Saw familes broke up. Saw kids that were 2 when they came here and have no clue what life is like in Mexico and all those people get deported. It will make great compelling TV and after a little of that we shall be watching that as a party that is out of power.

IF the House bill showed some common sense as to some of those issues there is a chance it would become law. BUt no, its for no exceptions what so ever. Thats why it is fantasy land. It could very well get held up in the courts and in the mean time we get thrown out of power and lose the latino vote forever.

No thanks


345 posted on 06/27/2006 6:31:18 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Are you not tired of her constant yammering, I got a headache three hours ago reading her posts. SHE DOESN'T GET IT. She lives in fantasyland. Definitely not in touch with the real world.


346 posted on 06/27/2006 6:31:51 PM PDT by arosebyanyothername (God Works When We Believe)
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To: Texasforever
Polls close at 8pm Mountain Time.

I gotta admit, it's not looking good for Jacob right now, per the blogs.

347 posted on 06/27/2006 6:33:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Texasforever

8:00PM Local


348 posted on 06/27/2006 6:33:23 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: catholicfreeper
The purpose of that Senate bill was to get something anything out so it could get to conference. It will be a whole new animal hopefully

Specter held a press conference yesterday or today and basically said his idea of "compromise" is passing the Senate bill. The House has wisely chosen to ignore going into conference and I hope they stick to that decision whether Cannon wins or not.

349 posted on 06/27/2006 6:33:26 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How can they know? Is there an exit poll or something?


350 posted on 06/27/2006 6:34:01 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Last I remember "Blogs" don't vote.


351 posted on 06/27/2006 6:34:18 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: catholicfreeper

...It could very well get held up in the courts and in the mean time we get thrown out of power and lose the latino vote forever....

I suggest you put down the Kool-Aid and step away fron the keyboard, you have entered the twilight zone if you think illegals( other than Cubans) will ever vote Republican.

http://www.vernonrobinson.com/twilightzone.shtml


352 posted on 06/27/2006 6:35:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: tennmountainman
Last I remember "Blogs" don't vote.

Hey sport he is on your side.

353 posted on 06/27/2006 6:35:34 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: All

http://electionresults.utah.gov/election/

no results posted yet


354 posted on 06/27/2006 6:36:40 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Texasforever

Aand what side would that be.


355 posted on 06/27/2006 6:38:07 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

Forget it. You've been into the shine too early.


356 posted on 06/27/2006 6:39:07 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What blogs are you looking at. I cant find many that are updating too much.


357 posted on 06/27/2006 6:39:24 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Texasforever

You should try some.. it might lighten u up.


358 posted on 06/27/2006 6:41:09 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I hope Cannon wins but if Jacobs takes it I will do what I can to support him. How about all of you for Jacobs? Will you do the same for Cannon?


359 posted on 06/27/2006 6:41:19 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: arosebyanyothername

Well I know the GOP has a lot of people who have no problem with amnesties and so I expect the debate to be going on for a while yet.


360 posted on 06/27/2006 6:42:31 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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