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Don't Call Ann Coulter the Michael Moore of the Right
Human Events Online ^ | 20 June 2006 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 06/19/2006 10:33:36 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

The dentist cranks up his drill, revs it up and digs in. At first, no problem. The Novocain kicked in minutes ago. Half our head is numb. He asks us a question and we nod spastically. He asks another and we mumble like Steve Martin in “The Jerk” when reading Bernadette Peters’ goodbye note that fell in the bathtub.

Meanwhile his drill keeps buzzing. The buzz gets louder, harsher. Our jaw—and finally our whole head—start vibrating. The sadist in the face mask and rubber gloves drills deeper, deeper. Soon—“AAWH!” We wail in pain. He went too deep. Either that, or not enough Novocain kicked in.

Some say Ann Coulter has the same effect on liberals. She “hits a nerve,” they say. Thus they squeal and shriek every time she releases a book. If only liberals were so lucky. The fact is, when this woman cranks up her drill and goes after a liberal nerve, she makes Lawrence Olivier’s Dr. Szell in Marathon Man come across like Florence Nightingale.

And what fun to watch! “Is it safe?” she asks Alan Colmes with a malicious leer. “Is it safe?” she snickers to Katie Couric while putting on the gloves. “Is it safe?” she inquires of Matt Lauer while revving the dentist’s drill in his face. Compared to Coulter’s liberal victims, Dustin Hoffman while strapped into Dr. Szell’s torture chair, suffered about as much as Sen. Teddy Kennedy at a Club Med massage parlor that serves drinks.

Calling Ann Coulter the “Michael Moore of the right” has become commonplace. But the label insults Coulter more heinously than she insults any liberal, including John Murtha and the Jersey Girls, for which she’s been recently scolded by everyone from Matt Lauer to Bill O’Reilly.

In 2000 Michael Moore wrote a famous letter to Elian Gonzalez. Among the highlights: “your mother decided to kidnap you … in Cuba, you were in jeopardy of receiving free health care whenever you needed it, an excellent education in one of the few countries that has 100% literacy … your mother snatched you and put you on that death boat because she simply wanted to make more money. Your mother placed you in a situation where you were certain to die on the open seas and that is unconscionable. It was the ultimate form of child abuse.”

So let’s see here: in the Jersey Girls we have women who—yes, tragically—became widows, but also became brazen political partisans, media darlings and millionaires. They stepped into the media spotlight and started shooting at conservative targets. Fine. But someone should have notified them that this set them us as targets, too.

On the other we had a destitute single mom who grew up oppressed under a Stalinist system and who either drowned or was eaten alive by sharks attempting to free her son from the clutches of a regime that jailed more of it’s subjects than Hitler or Stalin’s and was busily brainwashing him.

Coulter refers to the media-lavished millionaires as “Harpies” and “Broads.” Moore trashes Elian’s martyred mother as a money-mad gold digger, a kidnapper and a child-murderer.

So naturally the media brand Coulter as the insensitive spewer of hateful invective, as in the New York Daily News’ “Coulter the Cruel.” Moore, on the other hand, according to Frank Rich of New York Times, is merely a “polemicist and powerful storyteller.”

Among many other crimes and horrors, “Florida’s Cubans” writes Moore in his book, “Downsize This,” are responsible for “sleaze and influence-peddling in American politics. … In every incident of national torment that has deflated our country for the past three decades … Cuban exiles are always present and involved.”

Such a blanket trashing of an entire ethnic group straddles the very dictionary definition of bigotry. Normally the entire Democratic Party would work itself into a collective froth against the villain who spouted such “hate-speech.” Normally every media outlet in the land would promptly and boastfully ban this villain from its airwaves, broadcasting the decision between film clips of fire-hoses in Selma, cross burnings, and torch-light Storm Troopers at Nuremberg.

Moore himself denounces Republicans as “people who hate … people who get up at six in the morning trying to figure out which minority group they’re going to screw today.”

But ah! In “Downsize This,” Moore was insulting Cuban-Americans (i.e. Republicans), you see. So all is forgiven. So instead of being pummeled as a bigot by the usual media, academic and governmental sniffers and snouters, Moore was feted as the guest of honor at the last Democratic National Convention, squatting his gargantuan gluteus in the very President’s Box alongside Jimmy Carter. Then waddling onto the stage at Boston’s Fleet Center to an ovation rivaling even the one that deafened Fidel Castro when he addressed Harvard Law School and Washington’s National Press Club in 1959. Though it was close.

“These Cuban exiles, for all their chest-thumping and terrorism, are really just a bunch of wimps. That’s right. Wimps,” Moore continues in his book. His smear refers to all Cubans who left Cuba but singles out the Bay of Pigs invaders for particular scorn. “Ex-Cubans with a yellow stripe down their backs,” he calls them, on top of “crybabies.”

During the Bay of Pigs days these men—all volunteers and overwhelmingly civilian—battled savagely against a Soviet-trained and Soviet-led force 10 times its size, inflicting casualties of 30-to-1. When the local CIA man realized they’d been betrayed by the best and brightest he pleaded with their commander to allow an evacuation. “We will not be EVACUATED!” yelled that commander into his radio from the clearly doomed beachhead. “We came here to FIGHT! This ends HERE!”

And so it did. Then came the real heroics. Living under a daily firing squad sentence for almost two years these men refused to sign the confession damning the “U.S. Imperialists” (the very nation, which for all they knew at the time, that had betrayed them on that beachhead.) Many spat on the document in front of their Communist torturers. “We will die with dignity!” responded their second-in-command Erneido Oliva to his furious Communist captors, again and again and again.

In blanket-trashing all Cubans who for some crazy reason rejected free-health care and universal literacy, Moore also trashes the longest serving political prisoners of the century. Cuban-Americans like Roberto Martin-Perez, Mario Chanes De Armas, Eusebio Penalver, Angel de Fana, who spent 30 years in Fidel Castro’s gulag. That’s more than three times as long a Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn and Natan Sharansky spent in Josef Stalin’s gulag.

“For months I was naked in a 6x4 foot cell,” recalls one prisoner. “That’s four-feet high, so you couldn’t stand. But I felt a great freedom inside myself. I refused to commit spiritual suicide.” Again, escaping their tortures would have been easy: simply sign “confessions.” They refused. Normally such men would have publishers, producers and documentary makers lining up for their stories. A&E would feature them every other month. NPR, “Frontline,” “60 Minutes” and the History Channel would beat down their doors.

Alas, these were Fidel Castro and Che Guevara’s victims. Enough said.

In other words, the very things people like Moore, Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks say and write for free publicity, Fidel Castro and Che Guevara’s prisoners refused to sign to save their lives, or to end two decades of daily torture. Yet the Democrats’ pet walrus sneers at them from his Upper West Side pad as “wimps, cowards and crybabies.”

A guilt-stricken JFK finally ransomed back the Bay of Pigs prisoners. Hundreds of these promptly joined the U.S. Army and many volunteered for action in Vietnam. One of these was named Felix Sosa-Camejo.

By the day Mr. Sosa-Camejo died while rescuing a wounded comrade, he’d already been awarded 12 medals, including the Bronze Star, three Silver Stars and two Purple Hearts. I’ll quote from his official citation:

“On February 13, 1968, the lead platoon was hit by an enemy bunker complex manned by approximately forty North Vietnamese Regulars. Upon initial contact the point man was wounded and lay approximately 10 meters in front of the center bunker. The platoon was unable to move forward and extract the wounded man due to the heavy volume of fire being laid down from the enemy bunker complex.

“Captain Sosa-Camejo immediately moved into the firing line and directed the fire against the enemy bunker. With disregard for his safety, Captain Sosa-Camejo ran through the intense enemy fire and pulled the wounded point man to safety. After ensuring that the wounded man was receiving medical treatment, Captain Sosa-Camejo returned to the fire fight and again exposed himself to the intense enemy fire by single handedly assaulting the center bunker with grenades killing the two NVA soldiers manning the bunker. As he turned to assault the next bunker an NVA machine gun opened up and he was mortally wounded. Captain Sosa-Camejo’s valorous action and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.”

From his limousine Michael Moore sneers at this Cuban-American and his Band of Brothers as “wimps and crybabies with yellow lines down their back.”

Maybe I’m biased, but nothing—absolutely nothing—Ann Coulter has said about John Murtha or John Kerry or the Jersey Girls strikes me as remotely comparable in vileness, cowardice and rank stupidity as Michael Moore’s blanket calumny against some of the bravest men of the 20th Century.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; bayofpigs; coulter; fatfurball; godless; humbertofontova; michaelmoore; michealmoore; sheishim
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To: JNL
Kind of blows out that whole anti-fornication rule.

For those with poor reading comprehension, I'm sure that it does.

With those of us who have an acceptable level of reading comprehension, it is common knowledge that when a person prefaces a comment with the phrase "Let's say" this means they are using what is called an "hypothetical."

Miss Coulter is not asserting here that she commits fornication, but presenting an hypotehtcial scenario in which she is a fornicator in order to make a larger point - presumably on the moral distinction between fornication and adultery.

I'll point out that your gut response to my post was to try and dig up a quote from Ann Coulter shorn of its context in order to cloud the actual issue at hand.

This is an evasive tactic, not at all part of a reasoned debate.

The question at issue is this: Can a person legitimately claim to be a Christian while simultaneously professing hatred for another Christian?

The answer is no, regardless of whether Ann Coulter is an habitual fornicator in a hypothetical universe or not.

81 posted on 06/20/2006 12:40:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
W. D. P. Bliss, a founding father of American socialism, in an article for the New Encyclopedia of Social Reform, spoke glowingly of the guild system of medieval Europe. He admitted, "This was paternal. Often socialistic in the extreme. It was as we have seen cruel-but it was with a just cruelty." E. R. A. Seligman, a prominent economist who helped found the American Economic Association, approvingly notes that the guild era "was a period of supremacy of labor over capital, and the master worked beside the artisan." Thomas Davidson, a founder of the British Fabian Society who later in life acknowledged the superiority of individualism and private property, wrote, "Feudalism was socialism; that is often forgotten."[9] No wonder Walter Lippmann said that collectivism "is reactionary in the exact sense of the word."[10]
---The Evolution of Capitalism
82 posted on 06/20/2006 12:42:42 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Aussie Dasher

Great post!!


83 posted on 06/20/2006 12:45:14 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wideawake

"Can a person legitimately claim to be a Christian while simultaneously professing hatred for another Christian?"

Get your facts straight the argument is can a Christian hate GWB. My answer to this is yes they can, and while I may think they are wrong, they have a right to their opinion. Do I also think that this makes them Godless, again my answer is no. Does hating Bush=hating all Christians, again the answer is no, he's just one man.

Coulter hates all liberals and she's made that clear time and time again, does that make her any less a Chrisitan? Your answer would likely be no because her hate fits your narrowly defined definition.

BTW:

I agree with alot of the larger ideas Coulter has but cringe at some of the language used.


84 posted on 06/20/2006 12:50:16 PM PDT by JNL
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To: samtheman
A few points:

(1) The guild system was separate from, conceptually radically different from, and often antagonistic to the feudal system. This is one of the dynamics that caused the "town versus country" rivalry which was a source of such political instability in late medieval Europe.

(2) The statement by John Davidson, a chemist by training, is a bare assertion devoid of factual backup by a man who may have been an expert on Fabian socialism but who knew little of feudal society.

(3) Lippmann's statement has no relevance since he is discussing collectivism and not feudalism: feudalism was not collectivism - feudalism in fact fought proto-collectivist movements like the Ciampisti, the Albigenses and the Fraticelli tooth and nail.

Feudalism was the most highly articulated and carefully constructed system of private property ownership that the world had ever seen and remains superior to modern capitalism in protections for private property owners in many respects. Under the feudal system there was, and could not be, any such thing as "public property" or "state ownership" of property.

Please use your own words and tell us what specifically about feudal society was socialist?

85 posted on 06/20/2006 12:59:04 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

My own words? Your words are your own? You thought all that up in the vacancy of your own head, with no input from books or teachers or outside sources of any kind? In fact, what you really want to have is a pissing contest, not a discussion. First you say that I should post "my own words" and then you rag on Davidson for being "devoid of factual backup".

Which do you want? Source material, or creative writing?

(I know the answer. Pissing contest.)


86 posted on 06/20/2006 1:04:01 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

They'll be here, don't worry. Interesting how the Ann-haters can whine and act superior at the same time. Just like liberals.


87 posted on 06/20/2006 1:07:48 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Aussie Dasher

bump


88 posted on 06/20/2006 1:16:40 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: wideawake

Actually Wideawake you make an interesting argument here, you say:

(1) The guild system was separate from, conceptually radically different from, and often antagonistic to the feudal system. This is one of the dynamics that caused the "town versus country" rivalry which was a source of such political instability in late medieval Europe.

I've always been under the impression that the Black Death and the devastation it caused had much more to do with the decline of Feudalism and rise of Guilds / Capitialism in late Medieval Europe.

You see without the serf to kick around, Landlords were forced to compete in an open market for labourers.

Political instability was a by product of this.


89 posted on 06/20/2006 1:17:31 PM PDT by JNL
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To: JNL
Get your facts straight the argument is can a Christian hate GWB.

The president is a professing Christian.

Since he is a professing Christian the argument is unchanged. The Gospel of John does not say "Love one another, except for George W. Bush, as I have loved you."

My answer to this is yes they can,

we know what your answer is, but your answer has no merit since it is directly contrary to reason and to Scripture.

We are not discussing whetehr or not they have a right to an opinion - we are discussing whether such individuals can call themselves Christians without telling a lie. And the fact remains that they cannot. A person claiming to be a Christian who professes hatred for another Christian, be that other Christian President George W. Bush or Elisa MacIntyre of Albuquerque, is not a Christian but is misrepresenting himself.

Do I also think that this makes them Godless, again my answer is no.

Again, your answer is unsupported by either rational argument or Scripture.

Does hating Bush=hating all Christians, again the answer is no, he's just one man.

Are you deliberately missing the point? A person who hates even one disciple is obviously violating the Gospel injunction.

Again, Jesus did not say "Love most of each other as I have loved you."

Coulter hates all liberals and she's made that clear time and time again, does that make her any less a Chrisitan?

Again, the state of Ann Coulter's soul has literally nothing to do with the question at hand. And this point is bait-and-switch anyway. Even if Ann Coulter has asserted that she hates all liberals - which is unproven - she has not stated that she hates any of her fellow Christians.

There may be a larger question: is a Christian allowed to hate anyone at all? but the more specific question is: can Christians hate their fellow Christians (i.e. one of their fellow Christians, a few, some, many or all of their fellow Christians) and still be able to honestly claim the name of Christian?

Your answer would likely be no because her hate fits your narrowly defined definition.

The working definition I've supplied isn't very narrowly defined - for the sake of argument we are defining a Christian to be someone who believes in Jesus Christ and follows Him.

I agree with alot of the larger ideas Coulter has but cringe at some of the language used.

That's a fair point.

90 posted on 06/20/2006 1:36:59 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: JNL
You see without the serf to kick around, Landlords were forced to compete in an open market for labourers.

The plague was even more devastating in the cities than it was in the countryside.

A serf was far more likely to survive than a townsman.

And a serf was a party to a voluntary contract - the medieval towns that blossomed into metropolises from 1000-1350 AD were populated in large part by serfs who had left the manor to seek more remunerative employment.

When the Black Death came, many townsmen returned to the manors their grandparents had left in order to survive. Even then, there weren't enough workers to farm the land so landowners still had to pay more to remain fully staffed.,p>the Black Death caused great economic dislocation and gave laborers significantly more wage leverage, but the Black Death set back the development of urban capitalism by a hundred years.

91 posted on 06/20/2006 1:52:51 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: samtheman
In fact, what you really want to have is a pissing contest, not a discussion.

Incorrect.

I am arguing that feudalism is completely different from socialism.

It is a system where the rights of private property are not only paramount in law, but in which the inviolateness of private property was the standard by which law was made.

Feudalism was based on personal oaths of allegiance made to private individuals, not to any government or party. All this is contained in the actual law codes used by feudal courts.

Basically I'm asking you to tell me what aspects of socialism you believe to be contained in feudalism.

92 posted on 06/20/2006 2:00:24 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Oztrich Boy
"Non-sequitor alert."

You are not a Christian, if you spend your life spewing out vicious hate against anyone.
It's a no brainier.
93 posted on 06/20/2006 4:09:56 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: DaGman
"Suffice to say that Coulter may think she's furthering the conservative cause,"

She hasn't even claimed she is.
But by taking down the liberal tactic if using tragedy victims "human shields", she has hit the loony left where it hurts.
That is why the loony left like you have been squealing in pain since.


"but the cost in time and money for everyone else that has to jump to defend her and/or distance theirselves from her is not worth it. "


Cost in money to who?
What everyone else you screeching about?
It sure doesn't include you and your loony left pals does it?
You are making less sense by the minute.


"Coulter, or anyone else, can take a more mature and less sophomoric approach"

Ann Coulter is the very essence of good sense and restraint when compared to the loony left psychos like Cindy Sheehan, Michael Moore, and the rest of the motley collection of screwed up misfits that make up the moonbat left in America,
94 posted on 06/20/2006 4:20:19 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: JNL
"I'm just saying that one does not have to love or even like GWB to love Jesus or believe in God. Last time I checked that requirement was not in the Bible. "

If you knew anything about the Christian religion at all, and were not Godless like Ann Coulter correctly points out, you will know that spending your entire life spewing out rabid, vicious, nasty hate against your neighbor or anyone else for that matter, is the very antitheses of Christianity.
There is simply no way, the loony left in America are Christians.
The loony left moonbats in America make Bin Laden look mild by comparison, when it comes to pure hate.
95 posted on 06/20/2006 4:27:05 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: Aussie Dasher

Ann tells the truth. That makes her totally unlike Michael Moore than an idiot liar.


96 posted on 06/20/2006 4:28:32 PM PDT by ladyinred (Liberals are dangerous for America.)
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To: JNL
""That is why liberals liberals are Godless. They are the biggest Bush-haters haters on the planet." "

"What does one have to do with the other? "

I will explain it very slowly , so even your mind can understand it.
If your heart is constantly full of hate, and you your entire life consists of spewing out vile hate against anyone (including calls for their death), you simply cannot be a Christian.
It's that simple.
97 posted on 06/20/2006 4:31:26 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: JNL
"Your argument is that any Christian cannot hate and or dislike (I'm not a big fan of the word hate) GWB and still be a Christian. That's laughable."

The word I used was HATE.
The Bush Derangement Syndrome loony left in America are simply full of visceral HATE towards George Bush.
Ergo the rabid left in America are NOT Christians.
Ann Coulter was exactly right.
You suckers ARE Godless.
98 posted on 06/20/2006 4:37:54 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: samtheman
"I think she's an idiot on the subject of religion"

Look who's talking.

"doesn't really know what the word means and refuses to talk about it) "

Ann Coulter sure knows a heck a lot more about the Christian religion than you do.
That's for sure.
You don't seem to have any idea what you are talking about.
99 posted on 06/20/2006 4:41:09 PM PDT by Jameison
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To: samtheman
"The EU is run by a new aristocracy --- the socialist bureaucrats --- who have every bit as much power over the economic freedom of the continent as the old manor lords used to exercise."

Again you spew out about something you simply know very little about.
Sigh.
I am no fan of the EU but your statement is simply ridiculous.
I suggest you take the trouble to do some research on the matter.
100 posted on 06/20/2006 4:50:10 PM PDT by Jameison
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