A new Rasmussen Poll: Allen(51%), Webb(41%)

Rasmussen poll ^

[muawiyah]

A definition: "corporative state, economic system inaugurated by the Fascist regime of Benito Mussolini in Italy. It was adapted in modified form under other European dictatorships, among them Adolf Hitler's National Socialist regime in Germany and the Spanish regime of Francisco Franco."

A "corporatist" (correcting the spelling for ye there) is one who believes in the "corporative state".

The internet dictionary definition (above) misses the boat ~ way back when Commies and Nazis were referred to as "Fabians" (out of polite consideration) some were referred to as "corporatist" ~ having come up with the strange idea that central state control of mercantilist enterprise was the best way to distribute goods and services while retaining real political power in the hands of the "better sort", eh!

Yup, Webb is one of them.

Now, what's this about "sound like a Democrat"? Whachyou mean with that (using my best Richard Pryor voice)?.

[TheLion]

He should win the Virginia election. At least he didn't vote for the shamenesty bill! I'll be doing all I can here to help him.

[onyx]

you sounds like a demoRAT. What the hell is coportist?

You're the one poll obsessed and THAT is a mark of a democrat.

muawiyah is a long time poster here. You're not.

[AntiGuv]

Leaving aside the astounding silliness of your position that Virginia voters are more familiar with Webb than with Allen, the fact remains that Webb has not aired any ads at all whereas Allen has been on the airwaves for a couple weeks.

[muawiyah]

You can excuse it all you want, but it was done, and it was a classic caricature none the less.

Everybody involved in the act KNEW what it was yet they persisted.

It was indefensible.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Allen will win this by a nose hair. A long grey one perhaps, but he'll win in a tight race.

So you've gone from bashing Allen to grudgingly conceding that he'll win by a squeaker.

At least you're making progress.

[onyx]

I know you'll see to his reelection!

[muawiyah]

Your statement is incomprehensible. All I noted was that during the primary there was more publicity given to the Miller/Webb contest than to Allen's non-contested nomination.

Whatever happened AFTER the primary is irrelevant to a relatively local poll which probably is not terribly current.

[trek]

"All of them are prepared to raise taxes for no reason at all"

Old "Scoop" was pretty fond of raising taxes too. But I would still take him over a bloated old communist like Kennedy any day.

[zarf]

I'll continue to bash him nationally-he's a bad, bad bet for president.

[AntiGuv]

Whatever.

This is what you said: "The Dems had a contest ~ lots of advertising. Allen walked. This is simply name recognition for the moment."

I merely noted that Webb has not aired any advertising at all whereas Allen has been advertising for a couple weeks.

Beyond that, I don't know what your problem is and I don't care. Your statement was misleading and so I replied with a more accurate representation of the facts.

[Torie]

Oh goodie, another Pubbie seat in play. But Allen is so well known, that it will be tough for Webb to close the gap. The poll is more of a partisan template of Virginia itself. Very partisan figures tend to run to the template, all things being equal.

[muawiyah]

I don't recall Scoop Jackson being tolerant of antisemitic tomfoolery on the part of his staffers.

Webb seems to tolerate such behavior quite well, and allows it to be "excused" since, after all, Miller does have a large nose.

Webb has also spent a lot of time in Viet Nam hob-nobbing with their power elite.

What it gets down to is not a choice between a Scoop Jackson and a Teddy Kennedy (when it comes to Webb), but between a Teddy Kennedy and a John Kerry.

[muawiyah]

Your statement was even more misleading than my own. All of us here know very well that the more localized the poll, the more likely it's been done over a longer period of time and does not reflect the current situation.

Otherwise we have to believe politicians spend their OWN MONEY on very expensive polling processes AFTER THE ELECTION!

The fact Webb draws even 41% simply reflects that he is benefiting from name-recognition generated during the Dem primary campaign.

[AntiGuv]

Notwithstanding that indecipherable incoherence, the fact remains that Webb has not aired any ads at all whereas Allen has been advertising for a couple weeks.

[edwin hubble]

"explain what you mean by antisemitic, fascist??"

In his campaign Webb used images of his Democratic primary opponent (Miller) that were derogatory cartoon caricatures - in a classic antisemitic style.

http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/062006/06082006/197593

[trek]

"I don't recall Scoop Jackson being tolerant of antisemitic tomfoolery on the part of his staffers."

This is absolutely true.

I saw the Webb add. And I think they were definitely trying to appeal to an anti-semitic sterotype to what end I'm not sure not knowing the electoral demographics of Virginia.

Based on his writings I see Webb as an old fashioned Scots-Irish brawler. I think if Webb and Miller were young and friends Webb might cast an anti-semitic slur at Miller, the two would punch each other for a while and then go have a beer. Its not personal with him I think.

[Torie]

Didn't Webb run ads in the primary?

[advance_copy]

Apprently Webb got a bounce from his primary victory

Yes, a bit of a bounce. But Allen is still leading by 10pct. That's right after Northern Virginia drive-by media went all-Webb-all-the-time for two days. My guess is the same happened in Richmond and Hampton Roads. Senator Allen's campaign is just starting. George Allen will wipe the floor with Webb.

[AntiGuv]

Webb had one radio ad and that's it - no TV ads. Miller had a full-scale radio & tv ad campaign and Allen has been airing TV ads since Memorial Day.