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PRAYER IN SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.... FOR MUSLIMS
The Seattle Times ^ | 06/15/06 | David Montgomery

Posted on 06/15/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by Patriot62

On Friday afternoons, Nathan Hale High School senior Abdisiyad Adan asks his fifth-period teacher what he'll miss in class, writes down the homework for the weekend and leaves school.

Other Muslim students at Nathan Hale pile into Adan's car, and they set off for the Idriss Mosque a little more than a mile away. By the time they return from their mandatory Friday prayers, the school day is nearly over.

Adan's situation reflects the difficulties that the Seattle School District, and other public schools across the nation, face when dealing with Muslim prayer. Federal and state law prohibit teacher-led prayers in public schools, as well as student-led prayers at school events or religious programs. But laws protect the right of students to pray, and educators often struggle with how to accommodate students without disrupting class.

In Islam, prayer five times per day is obligatory. Adherents must face in the direction of Mecca and engage in a series of ritual movements. One of the five daily prayers must occur around midday, and on Fridays, the Muslim holy day, the midday prayer is supposed to occur in a mosque.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; prayerinschools; waronterror
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To: viaveritasvita
What do y'all think this means???

I have a de-coder ring for ACLU announcements. The tidbit you noticed can be roughly translated as: "Die you Christian dogs! The Communist dictatorship is coming!"

21 posted on 06/15/2006 12:12:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: Patriot62

If you would like to read a great article about Islam-Mecca-Saudi Arabia, go to yourarmstoisrael.org and select "sermon notes" and pull up "The Final End Time Beast".


22 posted on 06/15/2006 12:13:08 PM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Patriot62
A resonse from Dr Hollins regarding my inquiry about this matter:

Dear Mr. (fill in the blank), I have been receiving a lot of emails in response to my request for educators to participate on a committee to address the issue of accommodating prayer in schools. I hope this response will address your questions and concerns, as well as provide clarity regarding the purpose and goals of this committee. As you may be aware, we have a growing number of Muslim students attending Seattle Public Schools. This has generated a lot of questions from teachers about understanding the unique needs of our Muslim students. These questions range from the age students start to pray, differences in requirements for boys vs. girls, time of day prayer occurs, legal issues of prayer in school, and more. Some school leaders and staff have done a successful job in addressing this situation, and others are still working to figure out the best way to do so.

In response to the need for information from school staff as well as concerns from the community, we decided to form a committee. Our goal is to provide information to assist staff in knowing their Muslim students and to be supportive of the religious diversity in our schools. It is our hopes to provide them with knowledge about Muslim students and their need to pray at specific times of the day so that you they make educated decisions about what to do when this situation arises for them, as well as to explore specific religious accommodation needs for students from all religious communities.

To clear up any confusion, we are not trying to bring organized prayer into the schools, but are trying to find ways to meet the religious requirements of our students. The decision around prayer in schools is a federal issue. As a public educational institution we are not allowed to endorse any particular religion (i.e. leading students in prayer), and neither are we allowed to refuse a student the right to practice their religion. The U.S. Department of Education states that, “…the First Amendment forbids religious activity that is sponsored by the government but protects religious activity that is initiated by private individuals such as students”. We are not the only district struggling with these issues. Districts across the country are wrestling with how to address the growing number of Muslim students in their schools. The purpose of this committee is to address the issue rather than ignore it and to assist staff in responding to the needs of our diverse students, staff and families as we continue to strive towards a culture where everyone feels valued and welcomed.

Warm regards,

Caprice Hollins, Psy.D.

Director of Equity & Race Relations
Seattle Public Schools

23 posted on 06/15/2006 12:13:12 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Dial M for Moonbat)
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To: Patriot62

Christians are such wimps. The Christian kids ought to leave at the same time as the Muslims and go to their churches to pray, returning "when the school day is almost over." What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander.


24 posted on 06/15/2006 12:15:59 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Patriot62
In Islam, prayer five times per day is obligatory

Not to mention the obligatory lopping off of the heads of infidels. How are they going to accomodate that ????

25 posted on 06/15/2006 12:17:11 PM PDT by Mopp4
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To: Mopp4

"Not to mention the obligatory lopping off of the heads of infidels. How are they going to accomodate that ????"

They'll bare their neck when the time is right... but it won't be optional.


26 posted on 06/15/2006 12:21:46 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: The Great RJ

"No Christian would be allowed to leave school for prayers no matter what sect they were. "

When I was in high school '64-'66 ,we had Release Time every Tuesday morning . The entire student population got an hour study period so that the Catholic kids could walk to the nearby church for classes for their confirmation.

Of course back in the early 60's 99.9% of the population of Rhode Island was Roman Catholic.


27 posted on 06/15/2006 12:24:21 PM PDT by heylady
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To: Patriot62
Any other major faith system missing from her comments about accomodations?

None that she can think of.

28 posted on 06/15/2006 12:24:24 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,401+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Patriot62

Legally, I don't see why this is an issue. Christians have been doing it for decades through "release time". And release time been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.


29 posted on 06/15/2006 12:32:34 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Patriot62


where's the ACLU? Where's the people for separation of church and state?


30 posted on 06/15/2006 12:32:51 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your reply falls under the category: "It's funny...but it's not!!" Sometimes I wonder if the gig is already up and we just don't know it yet. The body hasn't hit the floor yet...?


31 posted on 06/15/2006 12:33:46 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: The Great RJ

Actually, for a few years our church held Bible studies where the local kids could volunteer to come once a week to hear Bible stories and such. This occured during the school time with permission of the parents. And yes, it was the Seattle school district.


32 posted on 06/15/2006 12:35:19 PM PDT by irishtenor (We survived Clinton in the 80s... we can survive her even when her husband is gone.)
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To: Patriot62

Seattle is so anti-Christian it;s sickening. This is an OUTRAGE!!


33 posted on 06/15/2006 12:41:24 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: irishtenor

Wait until theres an off campus accident. The muslies will sue the school.


34 posted on 06/15/2006 12:41:40 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: Patriot62

those of us who celebrate Festivus.


35 posted on 06/15/2006 12:42:05 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Patriot62
Other Muslim students at Nathan Hale pile into Adan's car, and they set off for the Idriss Mosque a little more than a mile away

This sounds like excused truancy to me!!

The school should say NOPE, and go the truancy route, but the school has been schnockered, lock, stock and barrel!

36 posted on 06/15/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Patriot62

I'm glad that I can silently pray to God anytime I want, with no regulations on when, how many times, how, or why I pray. No one can take that away from me.


37 posted on 06/15/2006 12:54:46 PM PDT by groovejedi
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To: Thom Pain
My husband took our son to the dentist, thus the child was late for school. The secretary did her best to imply that my husband needed to produce a note from the dentist for the absence to be excused.
38 posted on 06/15/2006 12:55:28 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Patriot62

"Federal and state law prohibit teacher-led prayers in public schools, as well as student-led prayers at school events or religious programs."

It does???

What 'law' is that?


39 posted on 06/15/2006 1:41:55 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Patriot62

Muslim derriere must be quite tasty to liberals; they sure lick it with alacrity -- and often.


40 posted on 06/15/2006 1:49:10 PM PDT by Dionysius
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