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PRAYER IN SEATTLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.... FOR MUSLIMS
The Seattle Times ^ | 06/15/06 | David Montgomery

Posted on 06/15/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by Patriot62

On Friday afternoons, Nathan Hale High School senior Abdisiyad Adan asks his fifth-period teacher what he'll miss in class, writes down the homework for the weekend and leaves school.

Other Muslim students at Nathan Hale pile into Adan's car, and they set off for the Idriss Mosque a little more than a mile away. By the time they return from their mandatory Friday prayers, the school day is nearly over.

Adan's situation reflects the difficulties that the Seattle School District, and other public schools across the nation, face when dealing with Muslim prayer. Federal and state law prohibit teacher-led prayers in public schools, as well as student-led prayers at school events or religious programs. But laws protect the right of students to pray, and educators often struggle with how to accommodate students without disrupting class.

In Islam, prayer five times per day is obligatory. Adherents must face in the direction of Mecca and engage in a series of ritual movements. One of the five daily prayers must occur around midday, and on Fridays, the Muslim holy day, the midday prayer is supposed to occur in a mosque.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; prayerinschools; waronterror
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Notice this quote by Caprice Hollins "the committee is open to concerns about whether the needs of other students, such as Jews or Buddhists, are being accommodated".

Hmmmmm. Any other major faith system missing from her comments about accomodations?

1 posted on 06/15/2006 11:44:54 AM PDT by Patriot62
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To: Patriot62

Sick pandering liberal bastards. Now let me tell ya how I really feel about these anti-Christian scum of academia.


2 posted on 06/15/2006 11:46:49 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Patriot62
"Adherents must face in the direction of Mecca"

Is this to say that muslims are naturally good navigators?
3 posted on 06/15/2006 11:47:07 AM PDT by xpertskir
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To: Patriot62

Don't look at me, I'm against federal interference in education at all.


4 posted on 06/15/2006 11:47:09 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (I've seen the village, I don't want it raising my children)
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To: Patriot62

"...educators often struggle with how to accommodate students without disrupting class."

Here's a thought, don't accomodate!
Public schools should be for the masses, not tailored for the minority.
For example, school hours 8-4 Monday through Friday. Try to be there. If you can't, then you lose. If you can't be there often enough, you won't pass.
Don't like it? Go to a muslim school.

Case closed, money saved.


5 posted on 06/15/2006 11:49:36 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Patriot62

Muslim appeasement. Many are turning this country over to the muslims.


6 posted on 06/15/2006 11:57:01 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: brownsfan
If you can't be there often enough, you won't pass. Don't like it? Go to a muslim school.

The solution is that simple. Why doesn't the school board leadership understand this? More importantly, why don't the majority of tax-paying parents HELP the school board leadership understand it?!

7 posted on 06/15/2006 11:57:22 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Patriot62

Liberal lies.

When, in the past, did they ever, by request or voluntarily, try to address the religiuous concerns of Christians and Jews - in public education. Never.

The "left" has decided, deliberately, to make league with Muslims and this deliberate association is being done at every level in society and government throughout the "west".

It is 100% part and parcel of the left's attacks on our Judeo-Christian traditions, in every other way.


8 posted on 06/15/2006 11:59:14 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: brownsfan

Somehow I'm not in favor of Saudi funded madrassas here in the US.


9 posted on 06/15/2006 11:59:14 AM PDT by CATravelAgent (Unless you're the lead dog, the view is always the same)
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"Any other major faith system missing from her comments about accomodations?"

Yeah, are the Santeria kids allowed to slaughter live chickens at lunch time for their mid-day sacrifice?


10 posted on 06/15/2006 12:02:17 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.)
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Most school handbooks clearly state if a student is tardy or misses X days/classes, excused or unexcused, he will be required to 1) go to Saturday class, 2) go to summer school, or 3) not pass that year. Seems to me if that rule is good for one student it's good for them all, including Muslims. Also, most handbooks clearly state students are not allowed to leave school grounds with the exception of off campus lunch time.


11 posted on 06/15/2006 12:02:20 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Patriot62

Catholics should demand the right to say the Angelus at noontime.


12 posted on 06/15/2006 12:03:30 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: EagleUSA

Oh my... individualism is now a type of "cultural racism"!? And actual racism ("colorblind" as a failed concept) is not! Reads like 1984 Advanced.


13 posted on 06/15/2006 12:03:53 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: CATravelAgent

"Somehow I'm not in favor of Saudi funded madrassas here in the US."

And the alternative is to alter public schools to accomodate these "people".

What I'm really in favor of is outlawing the death cult in this country. Want to be a good muslim, (an oxymoron if ever there was one.)? Go do it in a muslim country.


14 posted on 06/15/2006 12:04:11 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Patriot62

Pray without ceasing.
1 Thessalonians 5:17

This is the call of Christianity. Perhaps it could be used in this case to add Christian prayer to the list.


15 posted on 06/15/2006 12:08:28 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Patriot62

No Christian would be allowed to leave school for prayers no matter what sect they were. This is hypocrisy of the first magnitude. If Muslims don't like staying in a secular school than let them go to a Muslim school or be home schooled just like thousands of Christain kids.


16 posted on 06/15/2006 12:09:39 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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I thot this was an interesting tidbit. What do y'all think this means??? v3


>>>American Civil Liberties Union of Washington spokesman Doug Honig said a series of U.S. Supreme Court cases justifies the Seattle district's efforts.<<<


17 posted on 06/15/2006 12:09:53 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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This has the makings of a great religious freedom case, especially if Christian denominations make demands for similar accommodations and are denied.

Under settled US Supreme Court law, "release time" arrangements for prayer and instruction on school grounds are barred, and granting them on a Muslims only basis would be doubly wrong as violating both the Establishment clause and equal protection. If such a case is pressed, the Left and ACLU will be in a real quandary because their reflexive secularism and hostility to Christianity will collide with their desire to cater to Muslims.

If release time is permitted by the Supreme Court, the net result will be a return to religious observance and instruction in most public schools, provided that all faiths are given reasonable accommodation. Since Christians are the majority, this would have dramatic consequences within a generation by fostering school-based religious instruction on a near par with other classes.
18 posted on 06/15/2006 12:10:45 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Ever see a Lib with a screaming child? (Most of 'em actually, but that's another story for another time)

What do they do? ......They give the brat some candy to try to get the child to settle down and behave (called appeasement)

Ever see that work for more than a few minutes? Nope, me either. (Also note how these same children grow up to be totally disoriented by "real life" and totally unequipped to cope. And don't even think about how they then "raise" their kids.)

Sound like Seattle's approach to this problem?

19 posted on 06/15/2006 12:11:35 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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In Islam, prayer five times per day is obligatory.

I believe this is not true. I just finished working with a group of Muslim Algerian military students and they neither prayed 5 times per day, nor did they take half of Friday off for mandatory prayer.

Methinks the muzzie students just want to get out of school early on Fridays. I also notice that the schools make no such accommodations for ANY other religion, except for certain religious holidays.

And, if this is a biggie, wait for Ramadan and Eid!!
20 posted on 06/15/2006 12:12:10 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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