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Supreme Court: No exclusionary rule for no-knock searches

Posted on 06/15/2006 7:53:40 AM PDT by NinoFan

Breaking... Major 5-4 decision. This case was reargued and apparently Alito cast the deciding vote.


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KEYWORDS: alito; billofrights; constitutionlist; evidence; fourthamendment; govwatch; justicealito; libertarians; noknock; policesearch; robertscourt; ruling; scotus; warondrugs; wod; wodlist
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To: TChris

It's right next to the separation of church and state clause. Near the right to abortion amendment.

It's all in there, you just have to look with the special socialist glasses the ACLU hands out.


21 posted on 06/15/2006 8:04:49 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Huck
Suppressing evidence is too high of a penalty, Scalia said, for errors in police searches.
Dangerious, very dangerious.
22 posted on 06/15/2006 8:05:47 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: NinoFan

Reading transcripts is like reading tea-leaves. A justice may ask tough questions not as an indication of how he or she may rule, but rather to reinforce their own reasoning. The decision is made after oral argument, not during (generally).


23 posted on 06/15/2006 8:06:16 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Huck
How does knocking make a difference?

Consitutionally, it doesn't. If you're a drug dealer with "product" needing disposal, it would make a BIG difference. :-)

24 posted on 06/15/2006 8:06:41 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: I still care

THIS IS GREAT NEWS! THE GOOD GUYS WIN ONE. THE DEMOCRATS MUST BE CRYING IN THEIR BEER.


25 posted on 06/15/2006 8:07:11 AM PDT by kjo
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To: GrandEagle

I agree.


26 posted on 06/15/2006 8:07:54 AM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: 1rudeboy

1rudeboy, look, I've read plenty of SCOTUS transcripts and sometimes you are right, especially when it comes to O'Connor. However, in this case, it was obvious where she was going to go. Trust me. Even if we didn't have the transcript to assist us, we know her style. This decision flatly refusing to apply the exclusionary rule to this situation wasn't her MO at all.


27 posted on 06/15/2006 8:08:15 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Brian Mosely
...collected with a warrant...

If they've got enough probable cause to get a warrant, why give the alleged perps enough warning to get rid of any evidence? Actually, I'm po'ed that it was 5-4. This seems like a legal no-brainer to me.

28 posted on 06/15/2006 8:08:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NinoFan

"What the knock-and-announce rule has never protected...is one's interest in preventing the government from seeing or taking evidence described in a warrant. Since the interests that were violated in this case have nothing to do with the seizure of the evidence, the exclusionary rule is inapplicable," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in the majority opinion in Hudson v. Michigan (04-1360)


29 posted on 06/15/2006 8:09:35 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: kjo
THE DEMOCRATS MUST BE CRYING IN THEIR BEERTOILET FLUSHABLE SUBSTANCES
30 posted on 06/15/2006 8:10:45 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: NinoFan

Fair enough. I'm just leery of the O'Connor-as-stabilizing-force meme in the media.


31 posted on 06/15/2006 8:11:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: jwalsh07

Exactly right. Can you imagine Sandra going along with something like that? No, when she gave the originalists a victory, she always refused to join clear statements on the law, only narrow ones that refused to say anything and left her wiggle room to side with the lefties later. This is the first of many decisions in which Alito will make a very important difference, not just in the line-up of the vote, but in the quality of the opinions.


32 posted on 06/15/2006 8:12:08 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Brian Mosely
"The court did not say how long police officers must wait after knocking before they enter a home to execute a search warrant."

Obviously, they don't have to wait at all.

33 posted on 06/15/2006 8:12:37 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: AmericaUnited

The first reply to this by DU was, of course, "Police state." I'm actually shocked they didn't get a mention of Hitler in there.


34 posted on 06/15/2006 8:13:39 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: jazusamo

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."


35 posted on 06/15/2006 8:14:09 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: NinoFan
If the police don't announce themselves, they leave themselves with no legal protection against righfully being shot and killed by the residents of the abode as they break and enter. The residents would be able to successfully argue self defense against unknown intruders, with reasonable justification to assume that the unknown, unannounced entrants had harmful intent.
36 posted on 06/15/2006 8:14:59 AM PDT by sourcery (A libertarian is a conservative who has been mugged ...by his own government)
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh, I agree. The reason the media puts it in every article about the Court is clear. However, this is the rare case where I think we can honestly say that Alito cast the deciding vote.


37 posted on 06/15/2006 8:15:06 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: NinoFan
This decision flatly refusing to apply the exclusionary rule to this situation wasn't her MO at all.

O'Connor's style was to come up with complex decisions based on fine-tuned application of minutae. Believe me, she would have ruled for AND against with a series of "tests" that police must follow to differentiate between legal and illegal knocking.

38 posted on 06/15/2006 8:16:11 AM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: PackerBronco

Exactly. And neither police nor citizen would have any idea how the decision applied to the real world.


39 posted on 06/15/2006 8:17:57 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: lugsoul

Lug, they have to have a warrant. So with a warrant in hand, why risk the cops and/or losing evidence by making like an Avon lady and knocking?


40 posted on 06/15/2006 8:19:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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