[lugsoul]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

[mewzilla]

Lug, they have to have a warrant. So with a warrant in hand, why risk the cops and/or losing evidence by making like an Avon lady and knocking?

[sinkspur]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

Surely you're kidding. There is nothing in the Fourth Amendment about knock-and-announce. The warrant gives law enforcement the right to enter in any way they see fit.

Or are you merely arguing the contrarian position?

[jazusamo]

Maybe you have a point and maybe decisions wouldn't have to be made like this if we lived in a perfect world, unfortunately we don't. I believe post #17 is a good example of the lack of common sense by those of the lefty persuasion.

[dirtboy]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

I have been critical of a lot of SCOTUS decisions regarding search and seizure, especially warantless ones such as DUI checkpoints.

But in this case, they had a warrant, so I don't have a Constitutional problem with this decision - due process was followed, the issue was how the search was executed, which IMO the Constituion is much less explicit about once a warrant is obtained.

[B Knotts]

I don't like the idea of no-knock raids, generally. They seem to me to run against the American ideal, except, of course, in a situation where life or limb is at immediate risk.

But, I don't see where in the Constitution they are forbidden, unless you are going to argue that they are a denial of due process.

They can be eliminated legislatively; there is no reason for the courts to impose on the legislative branch. We've gotten a lot more bad law than good through that route.

[BlackbirdSST]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

Boggles the mind, doesn't it!? Blackbird.

[elkfersupper]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

It's also sad and scary.

[blaquebyrd]

"It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

I guess the federal agents who kicked in the door to get Elian Gonzalez out of the house were right after all. Turns out Janet Reno and Bill Clinton were conservatives after all.

[mugs99]

It is mind boggling how so many here consider the expansion of the power of the state to be "conservative."

Neocons are not conservative. They adopted the word conservative the same way that other group adopted the word gay.
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