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RCMP Behind Bomb Material [Now it's a sting?? Entrapment?!]
Toronto Star ^ | Sunday, June 4, 2006 | Michelle Shepard and Isabel Teotonio

Posted on 06/04/2006 12:32:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

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To: Concho

300# actual nitrogen per acre from a 34-0-0 mixture is about 6000# total pounds for 6 acres. Each hundred weight only yields 34# actual N. Watch out for those tricky fractions.


61 posted on 06/04/2006 6:53:02 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny!)
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To: canuck_conservative
Charged are Fahim Ahmad, 21; Jahmaal James, 23; Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19; and Steven Vikash Chand, 25, all of Toronto; Zakaria Amara, 20; Asad Ansari, 21; Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30; Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21; Saad Khalid, 19; and Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, all of Mississauga; and Mohammed Dirie, 22 and Yasin Abdi Mohamed, 24, who are incarcerated in Kingston.

Need we say anything else? The names speak for themselves.

Sounds like damn fine police work and intel to me!

62 posted on 06/04/2006 6:58:05 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I support the troops and the mission.)
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To: AFPhys

Hi there. Good to see you.


63 posted on 06/04/2006 6:59:11 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I support the troops and the mission.)
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To: Perdogg; canuck_conservative

Nah, rather I'm waiting for the moment when the chattering class in Toronto and Montreal cry that had Paul Martin remained in power this wouldn't happen. "See, they started planning this once we switched sides to become Uncle Sam's lapdog!"


64 posted on 06/04/2006 7:20:18 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Western MSMs are becoming Chinese media, nothing is true apart from the paper's name and date.)
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To: AFPhys
The soldering iron, multimeter, and handgun will be in many American homes. Not suspicious.

The kluge with the cellphone and battery pack, though, looks pretty fishy. Even if those are C cells and not D cells, that's a lot of oomph for modern electronics, which can run quite well on two CR0032 cells. Something in that setup was expected to draw some current.

Combine that with more AN than McVeigh had, and I think that's probable cause for at least a look-see.
65 posted on 06/04/2006 7:31:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: CedarDave; Chieftain; SandRat

This afternoon I heard on Fox that the Mooslims in Toronto were all upset because maybe now citizens might be anti-Mooslim and they may "be facing some discrimination and hate crimes."

Hey...All you MODERATE MOOSLIMOS...
How about you all get into the street in Toronto and DENOUNCE these terrorist youth scum?!!!!
N oooo...you just whine about possible hate crimes now.

There are no moderate Mooslims...this just proves it again!!


66 posted on 06/04/2006 7:32:39 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Moderate Mooslims.....STFU!)
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To: Kakaze
Read the article I linked in post#55.

LE didn't conduct these arrests based solely on the equipment they found. I have ALL of that stuff myself, and even have a 40# bag of NH4NO3 and 50gallons or so of fuel oil - right here, right now.

Take a look at the quick report of the investigatory work this was based on.
67 posted on 06/04/2006 7:33:02 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Kakaze; hoosierham; AFPhys

I'm sure you own all of these items AND had contact with suspected terrorists in the U.S. AND regularly chatted on known terrorist websites AND visited a terrorist training camp within the past two years AND rented a car for someone who was caught smuggling guns taped to his thighs while crossing the Canadian border AND were associated with persons who were seen taking notes outside of the Canadian counter-terrorist unit's office building and were spotted in that building's basement.

At some point, things stop becoming mere coincidences.


68 posted on 06/04/2006 7:34:46 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: conservative in nyc; Kakaze; hoosierham; AFPhys

I think there's enough going on that "looks funny" here to justify an investigation.

If these guys are OK, then they can just explain the science project that involved cell phone triggers, AN, handguns, ammo, plans, and contacts, and if they are on the level, the cops will let them go.

I've been stopped by cops who thought things looked "funny" and after a brief explanation things were OK. (I got stopped for having two large lobsterscope devices protruding from my trunk. They looked like pretty big TV sets by the smalltown cops, and they pulled me over- after explaining what they were, they let me go, no problem).


69 posted on 06/04/2006 7:46:08 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: AFPhys
LE didn't conduct these arrests based solely on the equipment they found. I have ALL of that stuff myself, and even have a 40# bag of NH4NO3 and 50gallons or so of fuel oil - right here, right now.

You still working on that anti-gravity device?

70 posted on 06/04/2006 8:24:57 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen, Meers.)
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To: canuck_conservative
I think the terrorists will get smart in the future so that if are caught they'll have the perfect explanation and there will be nothing to convict them for the act... that is, untill the very last moment.
71 posted on 06/04/2006 8:37:23 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: BIGLOOK

You are right, I blew right through it. It doesnt pay to let the musklims piss me off.

Geez, I used to do this. I wasnt thinking actual. 3# of product per pound of actual, 900# product per A. 6000/900=6.6 A.

I retract my remarks.


72 posted on 06/04/2006 8:57:58 PM PDT by Concho
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To: canuck_conservative
"I have no idea what this is," said the distraught father. "I'm sure it's going to come to nothing. We're playing a political game here. I hope the judicial system realizes this."

What a dickwad.
At a minimum all relative and sympathizers of these peckerheads
need to be repatriated to some muzzie friendly country.
Those involved need to be dealt with like spys or saboteurs in WW2. SHOT!!!
No pussy footing with long drawn out civilian trials like the U.S.
These are enemy combatants and should be tried and treated as such.

73 posted on 06/04/2006 9:07:01 PM PDT by CaptainCanada ("Macht doch Eiern Dreck aleene!" (Take care of your own mess!).)
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To: IslandJeff

Someone should write out a Constitutional Amendment authorizing a U.S. national police force in the mold of the RCMP...


74 posted on 06/04/2006 9:14:37 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Muslims scare me. I am serious.

Nothing on the world spooks me more than Islam does.


75 posted on 06/04/2006 10:26:48 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Never Forget 9/11/01...R.I.P.)
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To: Bean Counter

It's a metric tonne, not the "ton" we use in the U.S. 3 metric tonnes is about 6,614 U.S. pounds.


76 posted on 06/04/2006 10:32:13 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: canuck_conservative
"I have no idea what this is," said the distraught father. "I'm sure it's going to come to nothing. We're playing a political game here. I hope the judicial system realizes this."

This is the very essence of Political Correctness a Disease attributed to the liberalist brain denial and the blaming of politics or some other form of organized falderal instead of looking at ones self and seeing the wrong in it's culminating of fact's

Teach your children NOT to be Liberal by any means but in real giving for that is the true meaning of charity it is giving from the heart liberalism has sout to capture what it cannot control in the word charity

The very word liberal should be struck from existance and every liberal mindset should be given immediate medical treatment for disorders uncommon to clear thinking

You cannot teach common sense but every college across the globe has and dose teach one form or another of the liberalism lie !

77 posted on 06/04/2006 10:38:00 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("Please run your Biochip across the scanner " Warning ! Warning ! Happiness detected Detain at Once)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
Correct. a tonne is 2204.6 lbs or 1,000 kgs.

Right, and 1 short or net ton is 2,000 pounds or 0.907 metric tonnes.

78 posted on 06/04/2006 10:39:06 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: canuck_conservative
The Canadian Left is denial... even 3,000 people killed in downtown Toronto and the CN in smoking ruins won't wake them up. Whatever happened to respect for the Canadian tradition of order and good government. Its the Dominion's raison d'etre. Canadians have good reason to value safety and a civilized existence and that's what their government is supposed to provide for them. Its not a sting or entrapment; its catching these people before they could inflict some serious damage upon the country.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

79 posted on 06/04/2006 10:44:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: caveat emptor

The RCMP is famous for its stings. My bet is that CSIS found these guys on the internet, and from the local muslims who got bumped out of their mosque when they took it over. Not everybody (or even most people) were ready for, or interested in the wahabbist power hour they set up.

After that it would have gone to RCMP, who would have controlled the availability of the bomb materials to them, gathered up evidence of intent, and figured out who was who in the organization. After enough gathering, they opened the trap door, and here we are.

Lots of our domestic terrorists find that "Mother Mountie" is a very generous old bird when it comes to useful terror toys. Unfortunately she isn't really to be trusted, and has some very hard men at her disposal. This is an old game, and it just got a few more losers.


80 posted on 06/05/2006 12:28:43 AM PDT by Threepwood
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