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Decrease in black students alarms UCLA
Baltimore Sun ^ | 6/4/06 | Rebecca Trounson

Posted on 06/04/2006 9:30:35 AM PDT by mathprof

This fall 4,852 freshmen are expected to enroll at the University of California, Los Angeles, but only 96, or 2 percent, are black - the lowest figure in decades and a growing concern on the campus.

For several years, students, professors and administrators at UCLA have watched with discouragement as the numbers of black students declined. But the new figures, released last week, have shocked many on campus and prompted school leaders to declare the situation a crisis.

UCLA - which has such storied black alumni as baseball legend Jackie Robinson, Nobel laureate Ralph Bunche and former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, and is in a county that is 9.8 percent black - now has a lower percentage of black freshmen than either its cross-town rival, the University of Southern California, or UC-Berkeley, the school often considered its top competitor within the UC system.

The 96 figure - down by 20 students from last year - is the lowest for incoming black freshmen since at least 1973. And of the black freshmen who have indicated they will enroll in the fall, 20 are recruited athletes, admissions officials said.

"Clearly, we're going to have to meet this crisis by redoubling our efforts, which have not yielded the results we'd like to see," said Chancellor Albert Carnesale, who met Friday with a delegation of undergraduates upset about the situation.

Carnesale... said that UCLA has been trying for years to boost those levels, within the limits allowed by law. [snip]

Ward Connerly, the former UC regent who was an architect of Proposition 209, said the issue was not the law.

"The problem - and this is an old song, I know - starts with the small number of black students who are academically competitive," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: academia; affirmativeaction; highereducation
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1 posted on 06/04/2006 9:30:40 AM PDT by mathprof
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No problem. Just lower the standards more and exlude white and asian kids.


2 posted on 06/04/2006 9:32:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mathprof

No problem. Just lower the standards more and exlude white and asian kids.

(sarcasm off)


3 posted on 06/04/2006 9:33:39 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mathprof

or pass legislation requiring %s of blacks regardless of academic performance...


4 posted on 06/04/2006 9:36:22 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: nmh

The problem, of course, is that black culture just does not emphasize academic achievement. Plain and simple. Liberals can scream all they want to about "institutional racism," and I'll just keep on laughing in their face.


5 posted on 06/04/2006 9:37:40 AM PDT by OldChicago23
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To: mathprof
Considering this is the Sun paper i'm surprised they haven't found a way to blame Bush or 'the republican controlled congress' for this yet.
6 posted on 06/04/2006 9:37:52 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: mathprof

Panic! Crisis! I'm imagining administrators running around in circles crying, "Blacks!! We need more blacks!! Where can we find some blacks??"


7 posted on 06/04/2006 9:38:07 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: wizardoz

So Afram students don't wanna go there. How is that a crisis? UCLA should just take what they get. Whomever applies, applies. Choose from those.


8 posted on 06/04/2006 9:42:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: kinoxi

Give it a day or two.


9 posted on 06/04/2006 9:42:09 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: nmh

We need Afro-centric education, to make everyone feel good! Did you know atomic energy was used in Zimbabwe 50, 000 years ago?;)


10 posted on 06/04/2006 9:42:20 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: OldChicago23
is that black culture just does not emphasize academic achievement

And those black families that do emphasize academic achievement routinely find themselves the brunt of ridicule in many black communities.

11 posted on 06/04/2006 9:43:53 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: mathprof
Since when do you HAVE to have a degree to make it in this world? I know several people who have jobs with salaries that blow away what some of the people with degrees make!!

In this country - you can make it with hard work and doing what you have to do in order to succeed.

Some are just not college material and apprenticeships, etc suit them better.

12 posted on 06/04/2006 9:44:19 AM PDT by LADY J
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Ward Connerly, the former UC regent who was an architect of Proposition 209, said the issue was not the law. "The problem - and this is an old song, I know - starts with the small number of black students who are academically competitive," he said.

Ward Connerly is a good man - but hated by the lib blacks - he's "off" the reservation -actually puts the blame on the students, like Cosby does.

13 posted on 06/04/2006 9:44:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: mathprof
The situation is too late to fix by the time these kids get to college, they are too far behind and need too much remedial help. Letting in sub-par students so that they fail and drop out helps no one.

If anything is to be done it has to be at the grade school and middle school level.

14 posted on 06/04/2006 9:44:45 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: mathprof

No need to get alarmed over seeing fewer black students in colleges...there just are fewer of them graduating high school...


15 posted on 06/04/2006 9:47:23 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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"The problem, of course, is that black culture just does not emphasize academic achievement. Plain and simple. Liberals can scream all they want to about "institutional racism," and I'll just keep on laughing in their face."

That my friend is a FACT!

THAT is why Asians do so well. They're not born smarted. It's the PARENTS pushing them. It's their culture - ACHIEVEMENT DRIVEN. THAT is NOT happening in MOST black homes and unfortunately less is happening in WHITE HOMES. In Indian (India) households it is STILL happening.
16 posted on 06/04/2006 9:47:23 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: mathprof

We are approaching the point, if not already past it, at which time we will have to choose between excellence in academe or inclusion. Discussions already classify 1st, 2nd and 3rd tier academic institutions. Furthermore, we cannot complain about performance among our students vis a vis other countries, while at the same time proving the point in such instances as this entering UCLA class: either you can cut it or not.


17 posted on 06/04/2006 9:47:38 AM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: mathprof

Apparently the asian students cant dunk.


18 posted on 06/04/2006 9:48:18 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: wizardoz
Where can we find some blacks??

Recruit black Muslims from Africa. Double whammy - they're black and they're Muslim.

19 posted on 06/04/2006 9:48:45 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: technomage

"And those black families that do emphasize academic achievement routinely find themselves the brunt of ridicule in many black communities."

Or those families that do emphasize academic achievement are more conservative, don't give a rip what their "community" thinks and won't pay for their kid to get a worthless liberal education at UCLA? :)


20 posted on 06/04/2006 9:49:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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