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Who wants to join the Army? They do.
Chicago Tribune ^ | June | Jason George

Posted on 06/04/2006 6:15:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Karen Dandridge, Richard Forrest Jr. and Rolando Medina all graduated from high school last week and live only a couple of miles apart, but they never ran with the same crowd until now.

The U.S. Army has brought them together.

Fresh from proms and final exams, they have made the life-changing decision to volunteer for the Army, even as public opinion of Operation Iraqi Freedom sags and casualties climb. Like the 73,373 nationwide who raised their hands for Army duty last year, these three came to the South Holland recruiting station with their own reasons for signing up.

They will be welcomed into a military that has struggled lately to fill its ranks. Last year, the Army missed its goal of enlisting 80,000 active-duty soldiers by 6,627--the largest shortfall since 1979. Enlistment of both African-Americans and women has particularly suffered in recent years.

The three recruits all live in Calumet City--a town that closely resembles the nation as a whole when comparing economic and social characteristics, including the number of veterans as a percentage of the population.

Thomas Jefferson once wrote to James Monroe that every citizen should be a soldier at some point.

"This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state," he argued, believing that service improved both the military and the man.

This does not happen today in the United States, of course. There is no universal conscription. There is no draft. Instead, people like Dandridge, Forrest and Medina elect to serve.

Their motives range from patriotism to pay. Although their paths to the Army have been their own, they now enter this new endeavor with similar measures of fear and fortitude.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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KEYWORDS: army; education; military; nationalsecurity; recruitment; service
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To: Coop

I appreciate it, and he's been informed of it as well. He won't be able to communicate with us, except perhaps by letter, for the next three weeks.

He's going in as a boy. He'll come out as a Marine. It brings a lump to this old man's throat.


41 posted on 06/04/2006 9:09:54 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

God Bless your son. My prayers are with him.


42 posted on 06/04/2006 9:10:57 AM PDT by minor49er (If the shoe fits, get another one just like it.)
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To: minor49er; patton

Thank you.

We need brave, strong, and patriotic young men and women to volunteer for our armed forces. We are at war whether the MSM believes it or not.

I'm proud of my son, and I am of course concerned for his safety. But I back his decision 100%.


43 posted on 06/04/2006 9:30:21 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Bear_Slayer
Red Dawn was set in a fictional town called Calumet, Colorado.

Which was actually Las Vegas, New Mexico, IIRC.

44 posted on 06/04/2006 9:34:21 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: TADSLOS

Yes, and Para-Rescue as well. Those are some bad dudes. But you have to volunteer for it.


45 posted on 06/04/2006 10:07:47 AM PDT by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I just started going to a church that a friend and his wife belong to and this morning, the pastor had the graduating high school seniors from the bible study class stand up in front of the assembly and give their names, high school graduating from and where they are going from here.

Two of the boys announced they had enlisted in the Army and Marines respectively, and each received a round of applause from the congregation. Each time it brought a tear to my eyes.......

46 posted on 06/04/2006 10:18:48 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It’s good to be the King –he can have a pointy knife if he wants.)
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To: Coop

LOL!! The military needs those too!


47 posted on 06/04/2006 11:05:17 AM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: babydoll22

What a way to hijack a thread!

What service your son shoudl go to depends on what he wants to do and what sort of man he is already.

If he wants to fight, he should probably join the Army or Marines. They do the fighting. Twenty years ago I would not have recommended the conventional Army at the same level as the Marines; today I would. A young man does not need to be in the Marines, SF or paratroops to be with good peers and great leaders. Of course, in any of those elite forces he gets valuable bragging rights.

If he is more interested in something else, like saving money for college, or learning a trade, the Air Force is the best bet. It has the most technical fields (although few of them translate into a specific civilian job). There are a few gems in there though. A military trained air traffic controller can step right into an FAA job on leaving the service, and the FAA is hiring (Army, Navy and AF all have this specialty).

The Navy has some challenging jobs but it is also the least egalitarian, most feudal service. While the physical conditions (housing, food) of Army service are the worst, the navy can be an unpleasant place for a free man, unless he is an officer. In recent years the "travel" has become a lot of riding around in the ship with not so many visits to exotic ports. One good thing for the education minded, on the bigger ships (especially carriers) they have college classes... professors and everything.

If he wants to help his country and people there is one more service that deserves fair consideration: the Coast Guard. I was talking to a young man a while back that said his job -- rescue swimmer -- was the best job not only in the service, but the world. And he meant it. For that job, you need to be smart and strong.

But there are a lot of different jobs and with a smaller military, most of them make a real contribution to the safety and security of the nation.

Finally, a young man looking to "find himself" probably belongs on active duty (rather than in college burning mom and dad's money. The college will still be there in four years). But for some people the reserves or Guard are a better option. That lets you combine military service with civilian living.

My own background colours my own opinions, of course. As a college dropout, I joined the Army in the 1970s intending to do four years and go back to school. Somehow I wound up getting into it, and served 8 years active, 8 years reserve, and over 10 in the Guard. Along the way I finished the college degree, while getting a lot of training that doesn't apply well to civilian life. (I can disassemble a BAR, construct a 1/4 wave HF antenna, treat severe deceleration trauma, construct an anchor point in earth or snow for hoisting a vehicle up a cliff, and name all the pieces of a Madsen submachine gun... I can command a unit of up to battalion size in about six languages. None of which impresses dates).

As a mother, you will worry about risks. You know, it's a rough age for young men. The ones that are not facing IEDs in Anbar will be learning lessons about drunken driving and other youthful risk-taking behavior. At least in the service, like the Boy Scouts, there are some adult leaders.

And their moms worry about them, too. I was in my 40s in my last tour and my elderly mom was still worried sick the whole time. Sorry, Mom.

By the way, when he comes home from basic training -- whichever service he selects -- he will have much new vocabulary. You are STILL his mom and don't need to tolerate that!

Best of luck

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


48 posted on 06/04/2006 12:12:25 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (America has no native criminal class, apart from Congress -- Mark Twain)
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To: babydoll22
My son came to us last week and said he was interested in joining the military and wanted our advice as to which branch to join.

It all depends on what skills he wants to learn. I joined the Air Force because I loved technology and Aviation. (the quality of life the AF provides was a good bonus!)

49 posted on 06/04/2006 12:18:25 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

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MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLIDERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts

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50 posted on 06/04/2006 12:41:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: babydoll22

Go Navy, Go Submarines


51 posted on 06/04/2006 12:43:16 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Another bit of Red Dawn trivia: The same guy that wrote Jeremiah Johnson also wrote Red Dawn and is/was a big cheese in the NRA.


52 posted on 06/04/2006 12:52:12 PM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
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To: Coop

Great Post


53 posted on 06/04/2006 12:54:39 PM PDT by exdem2000 (Proud Daughter of a Marine)
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To: babydoll22
I was just home from basic in 1968 at the height of Vietnam. My cousin, a year+ younger than me had come to me saying he was entering the Navy and would train in Tennessee and all the training and benefits he would/could get. His mother BEGGED me to talk him out of it and I did for her sake (funny, no-one from his side of the family had ever had to go in the military). 9 months later, he was in a car accident with some low-life with a fast car (426 Hemi) and flipped a dozen times in a field after leaving the road at 120 +.

He didn't die; he broke his neck and his mother/father spent the next 30 years dealing with caring for him. He died in an automobile accident a few years later.

Your situation? I don't know what to tell you other than to let him make his own decision. If you brought him up right, he'll make the right one. Interceding in someone else's future should be left to those with wings.

54 posted on 06/04/2006 1:02:24 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Criminal Number 18F
(I can disassemble a BAR, construct a 1/4 wave HF antenna, treat severe deceleration trauma, construct an anchor point in earth or snow for hoisting a vehicle up a cliff, and name all the pieces of a Madsen submachine gun... I can command a unit of up to battalion size in about six languages. None of which impresses dates).

Sounds like you need to date a higher class of women! ;-)

55 posted on 06/04/2006 1:25:54 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: exdem2000

Glad you liked it. Made it worth my time typing up. :-)


56 posted on 06/04/2006 2:25:19 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

"What a way to hijack a thread!"

I am so embarrassed. I didn't mean to do that.

I have been completely overwhelmed by the input from everyone who has replied with their thoughts and experiences in the military.

I am going to apologize to everyone who sent me a reply and thank all of them.

Thank you for your input. It was way more than I expected.

God bless you.


57 posted on 06/04/2006 3:12:20 PM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't want to know what you feel!)
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To: Gaffer

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

Another poster thouht I had hijacked this thread which was not my intent. I want to apoligize to you.

God bless you.


58 posted on 06/04/2006 3:40:54 PM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't want to know what you feel!)
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To: bmwcyle

Thank you for your input.

Another poster said I had highjacked this threat and that was not my intent. I apologize.

God bless you.


59 posted on 06/04/2006 3:43:28 PM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't want to know what you feel!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Thank you for your reply.

Another poster said I highjacked this threat and that was not my intent. For that I apologize.

God bless you.


60 posted on 06/04/2006 3:45:09 PM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't want to know what you feel!)
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