Posted on 06/04/2006 5:26:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, June 4th, 2006
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Sens. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.; former U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Vice President Al Gore; author John Updike.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Rice; Blix; Sens. George Allen, R-Va., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.
Excellent point here Kabar. I have read so much on this I hardly know where to begin but one link I read over the past few days, i will try and find it later,tells about how Iran basically started conducting war against us as soon as the Shaw was removed ala Jimmuh Carter one of the stoopidest Presidents ever. We are still paying for his dumb mistakes, another reason why it's so important to get the right people in office.
Most excellent post!!!
Both of you are doing the homework that the talking heads on these shows should have done...
I am only up to post #250...find it most interesting that so far, no comments from the panels about the Canadian terrorist ring...and I haven't seen where any have commented on the 3 school buses of KIDS that were stopped in Baghdad and some were summarily executed for being Shi'ite. These were KIDS on the way to take exams.
BUT.....you have all of these so-called veterans wanting us to just let the people that would do this take control of Iraq, and have more and more camps in Canada....
#458, boy are you kicking butt today Rodguy. That post deserves a special award for instructive common sense alone.
Hi, guy!!
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Pretty neat, huh??
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And CSPIN holds up the NYSlimes as the ultimate authority on America.
Rewatching the FNS panel, I notice that Juan says "Secretary Rice" in lieu of "Ms Rice". So he could say "President Bush" instead of "Mr Bush", if he desired.
".....The Swift Boat Vets are just the tip of the iceberg. There are people who have waiting 35-40 years for an accounting from these people. The Democrat Party Leadership has NO idea of the vein of rage they are tapping with this propaganda action against the Marines."
....just smilin' and waitin'. ;<)
First, I'd like to be clear that I'm simply stating my opinion (actually the phrase "gut feeling" more closely describes it). I believe McCain would pull "slightly" more from the GOP, but with the razor-thin margins of Presidential election lately, slightly more would be enough.
But a third party movement has failed with John Anderson and some others.
That's correct, and I should have more carefully specified that I was referring only to third-party candidacies which were originated, funded and directed by the same Establishment "Powers That Be" that control the Democrat and Republican parties. I was not referring to genuine populist, grass-roots movements like Anderson, Wallace, Dixiecrats etc.
Another distinction is that the circumstances and issues in question have to be such that the third-party would only be able to pull enough votes from either the Dem or Repub side to simply shift the victory, and thus the direction of public policy, into an outcome that a normal election would not, but which is designed to accomplish certain specific objectives of the insiders.
The circumstances which give rise to genuine grass-roots third-party movements, however, generally mean that the third-party threatens to shift the election in a direction inimical to the insider Establishment. Their usual strategy to counter them is to ridicule or demonize them using the MSM, but if the threat they pose becomes too great, more drastic measures are likely to be taken (e.g. Wallace).
McCain is and has been throughout his political career a creature and a tool of the PTB's. If they feel the timing is right, he would be a perfect, expendable third-party candidate to expedite a drastic shift of control of the American government and an acceleration of our spiral into the abyss of world-order socialism.
What is it going to take to wake people up to the fact that Counter Insurgency is not total war. Some people here are convinced that the "Solution" to Iraq is to fight it like World War 2. That is stupid. Total War and Counter Insurgency are two completely different types of missions...........
They're everywhere. Leaking vital national security information to the media. Undermining the President and everyone in his administration.
My feed of face the nation was out of sync with the audio. They were trying to make Rice look less sharp.
Well, at least I'm ahead of somebody... <g>
I'm at #323.
And thanks for the compliment. Clearly MNJs post on the preview thread hit home and caused me to think about it for awhile. Couple that with the Michelle Malkin post about the UK Times slander and it started me digging.
The truth is out there.
Hey, that gives me the idea. Maybe we can label things like this (exposing the drive by media) as the "G files," as in G for Gipper?
#467, right......
I believe you're correct Justa. It's already starting to come out that there are many, many discrepancies in the persecution of these Marines.
Thanks go to MNJohnnie, Phsstpok and many other FReepers who have spent hours going over articles and finding the discrepancies and prejudices of the MSM, the America hating Iraqi insurgents and some Americans here at home like Murtha. These FReepers are doing a great service for all American's.
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#478, one of the best "posts of the day". Good Golly this is a talented bunch on the Sunday Thread.
Hans, you have to get your story straight. Saddam's son-in-law painted a far different picture:
Interview with Robin Wright
Before Hussein Kamel's defection, in August of 1995, you write that Saddam was beating the West in some way, and UNSCOM. How?
In 1995, Saddam Hussein actually appeared to be winning in his strategy of cheat and retreat. He had actually managed to hide so many of his weapons that many of the U.N. weapons inspectors thought that he had turned over most of them, and were prepared to make that kind of recommendation. And it was only on the defection of his son-in-law and cousin [Kamel] that the international community realized how much he really still had. The whole crisis actually might have ended at that point, if it hadn't been for that very ... defection. ...
What was revealed in Kamel's defection?
Kamel's defection led to two important disclosures. One was the information he provided Western intelligence agencies. But, secondly, Saddam Hussein knew that he was about to be caught, and so he took weapons inspectors down to Kamel's chicken farm, and said that they'd only just discovered these containers full of documents about weapons of mass destruction. Of course, feigned his own ignorance, and blamed it all on Kamel.
What changed for Saddam after that?
Well, it became apparent that he had hidden an extraordinary amount of material, and from that point on UNSCOM was, again, a going concern.
The quantity was staggering. It took the U.N. weapons inspectors months and months and months just to go through and translate every -- and create a database for what was in those papers. It revealed that Saddam Hussein had also hidden far more than anyone ever realized he had, to begin with. This really was the critical turning point of the entire eight years in trying to deal with Saddam Hussein. It put the U.N. weapons program back on track.
Gen. Hussein Kamel, the former director of Iraq's Military Industrialization Corporation, in charge of Iraq's weapons programme, defected to Jordan on the night of 7 August 1995, together with his brother Col. Saddam Kamel. Hussein Kamel took crates of documents revealing past weapons programmes, and provided these to UNSCOM. Iraq responded by revealing a major store of documents that showed that Iraq had begun an unsuccessful crash programme to develop a nuclear bomb (on 20 August 1995). Hussein and Saddam Kamel agreed to return to Iraq, where they were assassinated (23 February 1996).
Then you assume that your polling data presented by your side is accurate. Sorry I don't. I suspect that was why your position was not able to get more then 40 votes in the US Senate.
See you people never read beyond the 1st line. People agree with you on the problem, they do NOT line up nearly as well with you on solutions. When polled on solutions, as always, the American people are all over the board. They want Border Enforcement, they want something done about illegals, but they also do not want to do anything to restrict immigrants. They ethos of a "nation of immigrants" simply runs too deep. So you people look at the numbers and scream "See 55-60-72-86 (what ever the manufactured number is today) agree with US, Illegal Immigration is a problem. WE all agree on that.
However, the picture is not nearly so clear when you start asking people what the solution is. See the problem is your side simply does not listen to any view that does agree with their position. You have that luxury. People in positions of leadership in this country do not. They are the Representatives of ALL the people, not just the "Only strict enforcement is acceptable" crowd.
I also like to remind all the "Poll Conservatives" that CFR, Medicare RX, The Education Bill, Farm Subsides and a whole host of things you loath also poll very well. You don't get to claim "the polls prove us right" only when they happen to agree with you then scream about "Selling out" when the Pols do stuff you disagree with that polls well. If the position is to be dictated by polls, those of you citing polls now have ceded up your right to disagree when the polls go against you. After all, according to you the polls "prove" the correct position on this issue.
However, we are not a Direct Democracy but a Constitutional Republic. You hired them to represent you. Don't like the job they are doing, you can fire them next election. In the interim, just because YOU feel something should be done one way does not give you veto authority over what they do. They represent ALL the people in their district, state or the nation, NOT just those who agree with YOU.
Good afternoon justa
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