Then you assume that your polling data presented by your side is accurate. Sorry I don't. I suspect that was why your position was not able to get more then 40 votes in the US Senate.
See you people never read beyond the 1st line. People agree with you on the problem, they do NOT line up nearly as well with you on solutions. When polled on solutions, as always, the American people are all over the board. They want Border Enforcement, they want something done about illegals, but they also do not want to do anything to restrict immigrants. They ethos of a "nation of immigrants" simply runs too deep. So you people look at the numbers and scream "See 55-60-72-86 (what ever the manufactured number is today) agree with US, Illegal Immigration is a problem. WE all agree on that.
However, the picture is not nearly so clear when you start asking people what the solution is. See the problem is your side simply does not listen to any view that does agree with their position. You have that luxury. People in positions of leadership in this country do not. They are the Representatives of ALL the people, not just the "Only strict enforcement is acceptable" crowd.
I also like to remind all the "Poll Conservatives" that CFR, Medicare RX, The Education Bill, Farm Subsides and a whole host of things you loath also poll very well. You don't get to claim "the polls prove us right" only when they happen to agree with you then scream about "Selling out" when the Pols do stuff you disagree with that polls well. If the position is to be dictated by polls, those of you citing polls now have ceded up your right to disagree when the polls go against you. After all, according to you the polls "prove" the correct position on this issue.
However, we are not a Direct Democracy but a Constitutional Republic. You hired them to represent you. Don't like the job they are doing, you can fire them next election. In the interim, just because YOU feel something should be done one way does not give you veto authority over what they do. They represent ALL the people in their district, state or the nation, NOT just those who agree with YOU.
It depends on the issue and its importance to not only the party, but the nation. Immigration reform is more important than tax cuts and judges, which Bush could not have achieved without the loyalty and support of the Rep controlled Congress. Why has Bush aligned himself with Ted Kennedy, John McCain, and 39 other Dem senators against 32 Rep Senators from his own party? Why has he dissed the House bill supported by 203 Rep Congressmen?
Then you assume that your polling data presented by your side is accurate. Sorry I don't. I suspect that was why your position was not able to get more then 40 votes in the US Senate.
On the key achievements of the Bush admiministration, take a look at the Senate votes and see who supported them. It has been the Senate conservatives that have been there when the rubber met the road, not the RINOs and the Dems.
See you people never read beyond the 1st line. People agree with you on the problem, they do NOT line up nearly as well with you on solutions. When polled on solutions, as always, the American people are all over the board. They want Border Enforcement, they want something done about illegals, but they also do not want to do anything to restrict immigrants. They ethos of a "nation of immigrants" simply runs too deep. So you people look at the numbers and scream "See 55-60-72-86 (what ever the manufactured number is today) agree with US, Illegal Immigration is a problem. WE all agree on that.
So what PEOPLE are you? Are you suggesting that we govern by polls?
There is a difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration. The American people you are so fond of citing are not in favor of increasing legal immigration or rewarding all illegals with citizenship. Also, most of the American public is not informed about what the Senate bill even contains or its implications. I can cite you all kinds of polls that you might not be so eager to embrace.
However, the picture is not nearly so clear when you start asking people what the solution is. See the problem is your side simply does not listen to any view that does agree with their position. You have that luxury. People in positions of leadership in this country do not. They are the Representatives of ALL the people, not just the "Only strict enforcement is acceptable" crowd.
LOL. It is not a "luxury" to express an opinion, it is my right. I will side with the 32 Rep and 4 Dems who voted against the Senate bill and the 203 Reps and 36 Dems who voted for the House bill. We are part of the enforcement FIRST crowd. There is no urgency for comprehensive immigration reform and the security of our borders should not be held hostage to it.
also like to remind all the "Poll Conservatives" that CFR, Medicare RX, The Education Bill, Farm Subsides and a whole host of things you loath also poll very well.
I thought Bush said he wouldn't govern by polls. There are certain things that transcend partisan politics, e.g., McCain-Feingold. The abridgement of political speech should be of concern to everyone. Bush noted the constitutional flaws in the legislation and still signed it.
You don't get to claim "the polls prove us right" only when they happen to agree with you then scream about "Selling out" when the Pols do stuff you disagree with that polls well. If the position is to be dictated by polls, those of you citing polls now have ceded up your right to disagree when the polls go against you. After all, according to you the polls "prove" the correct position on this issue.
I am not enamored with polls because they can be manipulated so easily, especially when most of the people are so ill-informed by the MSM and our schools. Most of the American people, according to the polls, want us out of Iraq. Bush has low poll ratings. Should he alter his course on national security issues because the polls say so?
However, we are not a Direct Democracy but a Constitutional Republic. You hired them to represent you. Don't like the job they are doing, you can fire them next election. In the interim, just because YOU feel something should be done one way does not give you veto authority over what they do. They represent ALL the people in their district, state or the nation, NOT just those who agree with YOU.
Your disjointed rant doesn't make any sense. You are creating some phony strawman and then attacking it. I am not asking for any veto authority over my representatives in Congress. I have the right as a constituent to express my opinion to him/her on various issues. I can write, telephone, fax, or email them whenever I want. They can do whatever they want. They are held accountable by their constituents through the electoral process, including in some places recall.
What you seem to what is unconditional loyalty to the President and support him on every issue regardless of your own personal beliefs and principles. Just as I can't expect the President to be 100% in agreement with me on the issues, he can't expect me to be 100% in agreement with him. In the case of immigration, the majority of the GOP Reps in Congress don't support the President's position. He is the odd man out, not them.