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Fighting Our Flush Fixation (No water in toilets to flush)
The Washington Post ^ | Saturday, June 3, 2006 | Elizabeth Williamson

Posted on 06/03/2006 1:35:09 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

As worries about resource conservation and global warming spur growth in environmentally sensitive construction, builders find that one room separates the greens from the traditionalists.

The restroom.

Once the most generic of features in commercial buildings, toilets loom as the earth-friendly builder's final frontier. Eco-friendly toilets -- low-flush, dual-flush or no-flush compost -- conserve water and cut pollution, a double benefit that few other green features can claim.

But try to find one of these toilets. As more builders earn plaudits and save money with geothermal heating and bicycle parking, they remain more likely to plant roof gardens than to install green toilets.

Plumbers say waterless urinals, which use a replaceable cartridge, are unsanitary because they don't wash waste away. Municipalities resist making the changes to plumbing systems that compost toilets require. (In a compost toilet, the high-tech version of an outhouse, accumulated waste decomposes into liquid fertilizer and organic matter.) Users complain that high-efficiency toilets, which use less water than traditional models, require two flushes to do the job.

Behind such objections stands this truth: America remains a flush-oriented society, and the more powerful the flush, the better.

"It was a morale issue," Anja S. Caldwell, green building chief for the Montgomery County public school system, said of initial resistance to the 50 waterless urinals introduced over the past year. "People thought that by taking the flush away, you're taking an entitlement."

Six years after the U.S. Green Building Council established standards governing construction with low environmental impact, buildings certified by the builders' group total 6 percent of construction. The trend is growing. Fifteen states and 49 cities -- including Maryland, Virginia and the District -- have some green building legislation or incentives.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: constipatedlogic; crappers; dc; environment; maryland; toilet; virginia; washingtondc; water
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To: MinorityRepublican

My Liberal friends get very annoyed because I always refer to the low-flush toilets as "gore toilets" (remember, he was the one who sponsored that legislation).

Every room in my house has been updated, except for the bathrooms. I won't give up my pre-gore toilets or my full flow shower heads.

The plumber told me that it would be illegal for him to install the old style fixtures, but if I ever wanted to get rid of them, I could get a pretty good price for them.


21 posted on 06/03/2006 2:22:09 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I'm moving into a new home in a few months. Can you give a reader's digest version of how to?

It all depends on the model. In my case were lucky. They simply took a conventional toilet and mounted a center "bucket" around the drain mechanism (sort of like a plastic ice cream container). It catches half the water in the tank at the time of the flush.

If you have one of those you can simply drain the toilet, remove the tank, and then unbolt the riser. The bucket should come right off.

Alternately, you could cut the bucket away with a small device like a Dremel motodrill. The redneck way that one of my neighbors used was to break and snip the thing off with tin snips. You have to be careful if you do it that way though because if you crack the plastic under the rubber seal, you'll get a perpetual leak and a running toilet. At which point you need to go to the first procedure (above).

Of course if they have some other way to make it low flush, like a smaller tank you're out of luck. There is a thriving market in used toilets because of this. Check online and you may find someone in your area who sells traditional toilets (if your locality hasn't outlawed them yet).

If you can't do any of the above, keep a plunger next to every toilet and make sure your family and guests know how to work it, because those commie toilets are ALWAYS clogging up.

22 posted on 06/03/2006 2:23:13 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: kinoxi

Philly, if I remember Rush Limbaugh correctly.


23 posted on 06/03/2006 2:25:15 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ElkGroveDan

Al Gore posed for a photo paddling a canoe. But in order to make sure the canoe would float for the photo-op, 4 billion gallons of water was released from a New Hampshire dam and allowed to escape down the creek. New Hampshire was in the middle of a record drought at the time.

24 posted on 06/03/2006 2:26:11 PM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: synbad600

Philly


25 posted on 06/03/2006 2:26:52 PM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: ATCNavyRetiree
Screw the low-flush toilets...when I build my house I'll install a NORMAL toilet...every low-flush I have seen needs TWO flushes to work....

It'd probably be easier to get some of those new-fangled water-pressurized powerflush toilets, than to try smuggling a 5-gal. flush commode over the Canadian of Mexican border. Umpteen million illegal immigrants they can't stop, but you can bet the Border Patrol would spot you and confiscate your contraband crappers.

Hmm... betcha there's not a single Border Patrol officer that still has a lame-o 1.6 gal. toilet. One of the perks of a fedgov job, I reckon.

26 posted on 06/03/2006 2:32:39 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: speekinout
The plumber told me that it would be illegal for him to install the old style fixtures, but if I ever wanted to get rid of them, I could get a pretty good price for them.

People in south Louisiana, renovating their hurricane-damaged houses, eventually got around to upgrading their bathrooms (after the sheetrock, flooring and other more pressing matters were finished).

Seemingly all at the same time, hundreds of old toilets were dragged to the curb, all to be replaced by new but inferior fixtures. What a festival of colored porcelain, too - the blue, pink and yellow of the '60s, alongside the green and harvest gold of the '70s. I even saw one that was *lavendar*. Technicolor, man!

Oh, and the plumbing contractors were out there with utility trailers, taking every old toilet that could be salvaged. Bet some even ended up on eBay.

27 posted on 06/03/2006 2:39:56 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: operation clinton cleanup

It's a slippery slope.


28 posted on 06/03/2006 2:44:01 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Charles Martel
You got that right!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970s-Ejler-toilet-3-5-gallon-tank-works-great_W0QQitemZ4465385476QQcategoryZ71284QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

29 posted on 06/03/2006 2:50:49 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is this an editorial?

It reads like a lecture on us horrible wasteful Americans, but I bet they pass it off as straight news.


30 posted on 06/03/2006 2:54:52 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: johnny7
So could some one recommend the ultimate in new toilets.

The "Tim Taylor" model so to speak.

31 posted on 06/03/2006 2:55:15 PM PDT by vikzilla
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To: Mygirlsmom

Waste not, want not


32 posted on 06/03/2006 2:58:18 PM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: MinorityRepublican
Enviros won't be happy until we're all living in caves again.
33 posted on 06/03/2006 2:58:37 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: vikzilla
I wouldn't know how to recommend one but my apartment building's sure as hell got 'em.

This place has the no-tank, high-pressure toilets you'd find in public schools 20 years ago.

I'm pretty sure I could flush a small cat if I really wanted to.

34 posted on 06/03/2006 3:00:27 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ISLAM: The Other Psychosis)
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To: mewzilla

So my dogs don't use it


35 posted on 06/03/2006 3:00:43 PM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: vikzilla
So could some one recommend the ultimate in new toilets. The "Tim Taylor" model so to speak.

More Power!!

36 posted on 06/03/2006 3:06:29 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: ElkGroveDan
Not just the toilet, but the sewer lines down stream. I have two bathrooms on a separate disposal , they have the modern toilets, only line that has to be rotor rutted about every three months
37 posted on 06/03/2006 3:08:26 PM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: MinorityRepublican

"Over here Mr. Liberal, hold still...this won't hurt a bit!"

38 posted on 06/03/2006 3:09:48 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Charles Martel
Oh, and the plumbing contractors were out there with utility trailers, taking every old toilet that could be salvaged. Bet some even ended up on eBay.

:-)
Bet some of those people are going to regret discarding their old ones.

39 posted on 06/03/2006 3:10:37 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: MinorityRepublican; dalereed
We just installed a 1.6 gallon flush Kohler Cimmeron Loo in one of our bathrooms. It works fine but my I worry that is not enough water to carry the solids the 200 feet to the street and the city sewer line...
40 posted on 06/03/2006 3:13:16 PM PDT by tubebender (Tagline...I don't need no stinking tagline...)
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