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I know, I know, I am going to get "hammered" (again) for bashing W and contributing to the DIM's and MSM's effort to drive a wedge between us Conservatives and PUBS (their IS a difference, you know), but what the hey, as I'm not a wishy-washy moderate and don't countenance to let's just "all get along" or we have to give a little to get a little, here goes.

" The crux of his argument is simple: A majority of Americans support the idea that marriage is exclusively between a man and a woman, and activist judges across the country are thwarting the will of the people."

Absolute correct, Mr. President and this is a very important issue and one we Conservatives support and commend you for.

However, what about a much more pressing--and a much more vital to our security, if not the survival of our nation as we know it--issue, and that being of securing our borders? NOW!

With all due respect, Mr. President (and you too Mr. Guru, Rove) if you want to grab onto an issue which would send your approval ratings "SOARING" (in a New York minute) all you would have to do is to all of a sudden have an epiphany and explain to the public that you are going to support the House Bill and (seriously) work towards "sealing" our borders and plan on doing so before the end of the year--regardless of the cost and regardless of the consequences (most notably, your friendship with El Presidente Fox).

Of course we Conservatives want (and expect) you to nominate more conservative judicial nominees

"Democrats will make a huge mistake if they're too partisan and refuse to give us a hearing on the nominees. So it's not even the vote that matters, it's what Democrats do when the nominations come in," the former official said."

"If Democrats move to squelch the nominations, the president plans to hammer home the split on core values between the two parties in an attempt to woo back his base."

You know what? I believe you are on the right track here, Mr. President and this "strategy" (one of putting the onus squarely where it belongs--with the obstructionists and liberal opposition) is brilliant.

Of course, Mr. President, will you (and your spokespersons) "hammer" Republican Liberals/Moderates RINOS(you know, McCain, Chafee, Shay, et al) who will oppose you as well?

And, Mr. President, if this "strategy" you intend to employ is one which you believe is going to be advantageous and help improve you favor ability among your base (and I believe it will) WHY NOT utilize it in the immigration issue, or, perhaps, we are not misguied or in error, when myself and many others "suggest" that you are NOT sincere when you speak of "securing" the borders and could care less about the dire consequences this Nation will suffer as a result of the Senate Bill which you so wholeheartedly endorse and support?

Finally, while we Conservatives are extremely disappointed in so many areas and issues you have supported (or conversely not supported);and while many of us are criticize and condemn, we have NOT forsaken you or the Republican Party—which unfortunately, is the ONLY viable political party which closely reflects our views.

The question remains: Have you, Mr. President, forsaken not only your “base,” but the rest of the Conservative Americans who supported and voted for you?

1 posted on 06/03/2006 9:56:15 AM PDT by namvet66
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I agree with you 100%. Gay marriage is an important issue, but it is not anywhere near the paramount issue for me. To gain back my approval and the approval of people like me the President has to change his stance on the borders and stop pushing one of the most destructive pieces of legislation this country has ever seen. Then he needs to do start to attack the out of control spending that we've seen under his administration. I'm sick of seeing him push new entitlements and government programs as the solution to almost everything and i'd love to see him wield that veto pen.


2 posted on 06/03/2006 9:58:49 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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Mr President....drop that foolish amnesty plan of yours and your approval rating rises by 10 points.

At least.

Overnight.

3 posted on 06/03/2006 9:59:44 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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Bush must get tough on medical marijuana - big raids on cancer wards - perpwalks for paraplegics - yeah, that'll help his plunging approval polls.


4 posted on 06/03/2006 10:00:26 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Welcome to The War On Everything)
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Blah Blah... Sorry but the bigger issues are in play.. I for one give him the benefit of the doubt and so will history.... If the House and Senate do not provide the right legislation to deal with the illegals then maybe they should lose.. in the mean time I am 100 percent behind this President who by the way remains a true U.S. hero as history will judge...


5 posted on 06/03/2006 10:00:27 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Its never Cool to be a Gay Superhero period.)
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When asked in 2004, what were the 3 main issues I had in the Presidential election, my answer was, and still is....Judges, judges, and judges.

Not to diminish any of the other issues, how many people were voting for "immigration reform" in 2004?????


6 posted on 06/03/2006 10:01:37 AM PDT by digger48
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Throw me a bone here , how about the borders, immigration, and taxandspend,

we know the gay agenda msinly wants attention why give it to them, ignore the narcissistic activists

7 posted on 06/03/2006 10:02:09 AM PDT by KTM rider ( Support Our Troops Donate to Irey)
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It's simply the wrong time for this sort of thing. With our gaping, wide open borders, pressure for amnesty, Iran about to go berserk, rampant corruption and spending, who cares about gay marriage right now? I mean really? This is something I agree with but it's not even on the radar right now.


8 posted on 06/03/2006 10:02:39 AM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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I hope that was cathartic for you.


9 posted on 06/03/2006 10:04:09 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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This is a BS story... watched the Press Corps freak over this asking Tony it over and over and over and over on Friday.

There is a vote coming up on this, so he talked about it in the weekly address.

Of course the MSM plays this as "pandering to his base" knowing that he isn't, but also knowing it won't earn him many points.

The typical fair weather FReepers come out to say "that al fine and good, but not good enough"

Can't say I'm surprised.
10 posted on 06/03/2006 10:04:44 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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Here they go again. They are so predictable, that even the alley drunks are catching on. The Republicans and Democrats are controlled by the same contributors and and do what they are told. They let us argue over religion, the English language and Homosexuals, but the money issues are theirs - even when they are selling out the country.


16 posted on 06/03/2006 10:07:40 AM PDT by ghostrider
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The Kavanaugh confirmation suggests that this year the Democrats don't intend to mount anything more than token opposition to judicial nominees.


18 posted on 06/03/2006 10:11:26 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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I'm not ussually a fan of Michael Savage, but he is spot on when he emphasizes the need to safeguard our borders, language and culture. If Bush would pick up on the simple fact that we want an English speaking country with secure borders and our American culture preserved his approval numbers would still be near 50%. Gay marriage is a part of this, but it's only a small aspect of a bigger picture and Bush doesn't seem to see that bigger picture.


22 posted on 06/03/2006 10:15:19 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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With just five months to go before the midterm elections, President Bush, whose once-faithful base has abandoned him in droves

For every thousand base voters Bush alienates he's picking up at least ten illegal votes. While it's hard to understand that logic, it must make sense to GWB/Rove.

Why can't we secure our borders right NOW?

28 posted on 06/03/2006 10:20:56 AM PDT by RJL
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Although homosexual marriage is deplorable, several million homos did not take over our streets and threaten the social order of the nation during the past several months: Illegal aliens did. In other words, we have a bigger problem than the homogenda.

Jorge needs to get in touch with his Conservative side, if he still has one.


32 posted on 06/03/2006 10:24:18 AM PDT by Vision Thing
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[ With just five months to go before the midterm elections, President Bush, whose once-faithful base has abandoned him in droves, is turning to the same conservative hot-button issues that won him re-election in 2004 -- homosexual "marriage" and judicial nominees. ]

Mis-direction.. a diversion.. IT WORKS..

The boy is distracting from the B.O.R.D.E.R..

AND he THINKS it will work.. it will among RINOs and other democrats..

The BASE will see even MORE clearly that amnesty and 20 "plus" million(or more) prospective democrats is what the President WANTS TO HAPPEN..

AS HE ACTIVELY takes the republican party apart bone by bone.. The man is butcher slicing the republican party as cleanly and accurately as if he knows exactly what hes doing..

Occams razor DEMANDS that he does.. But Denial of the faithful demands the turning of the head, you know, for the squeemish.. In five years republicans(if they are still republicans) will SPIT when they hear his name.. They laugh at Jimmah Carter but will SPIT when they the name George Bush.. By then the democrats will have found out George was their secret weapon.. He will be a HERO, to them...

Hillary however will never like him.. but then Hillary by then will be Empress..
The ungrateful wretch will think she was elected on her good looks.. and not because of 20 "plus" million(probably more) brand new democrats.. courtesy of George W. Bush.. Oh! and a few RINOS in Congress(Senate)..

Its not easy being a prophet...

35 posted on 06/03/2006 10:27:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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There's nothing more important than conservative judicial appointments. And defense of religion and family are also vital.

Immigration is not first on my list. BUT . . . it's becoming more and more important as I watch Bush flout the will of the people, kick his base in the teeth, and refuse to do his duty to enforce our country's laws.

It's not only a question if immigration, it's also becoming an issue of whether the president is willing to sell out his country in return for donations from big business and factory farming.

He took an oath to uphold the laws of our country. It's time for him to realize that he cannot just throw that solemn oath of office into the garbage in return for campaign donations.


36 posted on 06/03/2006 10:28:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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President Bush, whose once-faithful base has abandoned him in droves, is turning to the same conservative hot-button issues that won him re-election in 2004 -- homosexual "marriage" and judicial nominees.

This is frankly offensive and pathetically transparent. Bush is screwing us and the country on immigration and arrogantly believes his base is nothing more than little Pavlovian dogs that will reflexively vote the party line once the gay marriage button is pushed. It reminds of the democrats scaring senoir citizens every election season that republicans will cut social security.

44 posted on 06/03/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT by Maynerd
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Sad but telling that Bush is pushing the marriage issue from a position of weakness rather than strength. Is futile action on social issues planned for times of unpopularity, or is it a stupid coincidence?


49 posted on 06/03/2006 10:38:42 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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"...homosexual "marriage" and judicial nominees"...

Way off base Bush. This guy is clueless and doesn't give a piss. This apple did not afterall fall far from the tree. His daddy got very weak in the end. Watching HWB, during a televised interview, eating an apple and drooling during his reelection attempt was sickening.

We need leadership now. Mid term elections be damned.


65 posted on 06/03/2006 10:55:54 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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Finally, while we Conservatives are extremely disappointed in so many areas and issues you have supported (or conversely not supported);and while many of us are criticize and condemn, we have NOT forsaken you or the Republican Party—which unfortunately, is the ONLY viable political party which closely reflects our views.

Speak for yourself friend, not all conservatives and not me for sure!

The Bush administration and the repub party lost me a long time ago.

Now instead of doing the right thing, the constitutional thing, the thing GW swore on the Bible he would do...protect this nation from invasion...

Our president will trot out the tired tactic of mis-direction with the anti gay marriage proposal.

Not gonna fall for the dog and pony show this time repubs.

Seal the borders and repel the illegal invaders or let the damn rat party take over. Maybe then any real conservatives left in the repub party will discover a spine and choose the USA over party!

69 posted on 06/03/2006 11:01:52 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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