Haditha Doctor Was Arrested, Hates US Too

Sweetness & Light ^ | June 1, 2006 | N/A

[Sam Hill]

You have probably heard by now that the doctor who examined the bodies of the civilians in Haditha after the alleged Marine rampage said they were shot in the chest and head and from close range.

You have probably also heard it reported that the death certificates of the deceased record that all the victims were shot. Here is an article which features the source for the quote and probably the author of the death certificates, from the terrorist supporters at Uruknet:

An image taken from footage shot on November 19, 2005 shows bodies in a morgue after an incident in Haditha.

Witnesses, video document massacre in Haditha US Marines killed Iraqi civilians “in cold blood”

20 May 2006

US Congressman John Murtha said on Wednesday that a Pentagon investigation into the deaths of civilians in Haditha, Iraq, last November will show that US Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha (Democrat, Pennsylvania) was referring to a probe launched into a November 19 incident in which at least 23 civilians—including seven woman and three children—were gunned down by US troops. Haditha is a predominantly Sunni town 200 kilometers northwest of Baghdad in Anbar province...

Dr. Wahid, the director of the local Haditha hospital, said the Marines brought 24 bodies to his hospital around midnight November 19. He told Time the Marines claimed the victims had been killed by shrapnel, "But it was obvious to us that there were no organs slashed by shrapnel. The bullet wounds were very apparent. Most of the victims were shot in the chest and the head—from close range."

This quote has now become an essential element in most of the articles on Haditha.

Being the highest ranking doctor on the scene, Wahid (Walid) is probably the person who filled out the death certificates, or he ordered them filled out.

What we haven't been told by our one party media is some of the background on the good doctor.

Again from Uruknet:

Iraqi Doctors Beaten and Arrested in Haditha Hospital

Sabah Ali, BRussells Tribunal

October 30, 2005

Dr. Walid Al-Obeidi, the director of Haditha General Hospital and Dr. Jamil Abdul Jabbar, the only surgeon in the Haditha area were arrested for a week, very badly beaten and threatened to face the same treatment in the future by the American troops.

Dr.Walid said "they arrested me in my house in front of my family, covered my eyes, and tied my hands to the back on Oct 5 2005 morning, during the last attack on Haditha (360 kilometers west of Baghdad). They occupied the hospital for 8 days and made it their office. The first day they beat me on my eyes, nose, back, hands, legs... My face was covered with blood .When they removed the tie I could not see. They investigated me until the afternoon. I realized later that I was arrested in the hospital store. Then they tied my hands to the front, and left me for two days. I was moved then to the pharmacy department. They accused me of treating terrorists, and asked for their names.

I told them that I treat patients regardless of their identity, according to my oath as a doctor; even if they were national guards (which we actually I did) or American soldiers. And any way, if I do not want to treat the insurgents, I have no choice, because they were armed and masked. I would do anything they tell to do. Few days later, one of the soldiers came in the room, did not say anything, kicked me again on my face and left" ...

Both doctors were threatened if they do not talk, they would receive the same treatment in the future. They were warned of passing any information of the arrest to the media. They were asked who wrote the hostile slogans against the American on the opposite wall of the hospital? What are the names of the insurgents they treated? and what are the bodies’ pictures in the hospital computer?

Dr.Walid said he does not know who wrote on the wall outside the hospital, what the names of the insurgents are, because they were masked. He explained that the dead bodies’ pictures were of unknown people whose bodies were found after the fighting. "We can not keep these bodies forever; we do not have enough cold boxes. So, after two months, we take their pictures and bury them, so that whenever some one from their families comes to ask we show the pictures of the dead bodies".

The UN, the international HR organizations, WHO, Doctors sans frontiers…and all who it may concern are called upon to do some thing to help these, and other Iraqi doctors, and to prevent similar treatment in the future. Dr.Walid and Dr. Jamil believe that they may face the arrest and beating in the future. They demand that the American troops stop occupying the hospital and destroying it every time the attack Haditha. They also believe that the Iraqi authorities are incapable of protecting them.

Is it possible Dr. Walid (Wahid) has an anti-American prejudice?

[delacoert]

List of recent Haditha incident threads (Last update till tomorrow):

• Haditha Doctor Was Arrested, Hates US Too (article has different title). Source: Uruknet ^, started on 06/01/2006 8:44:39 PM CDT by Sam Hill.
• Slain Marine's Kin Blasts John Murtha . Source: NewsMax ^, started on 06/01/2006 7:26:06 PM CDT by Aussie Dasher .
• Haditha Reporter Was Jailed By US, Shares Name With Source (article has different title). Source: Reuters on Yahoo ^, started on 06/01/2006 5:24:18 PM CDT by Sam Hill.
• New 'Iraq massacre' tape emerges. Source: BBC ^, started on 06/01/2006 5:19:46 PM CDT by Axlrose.
• Freep a poll! (Haditha. Criminal act or accident?). Source: Pasadena Star-news ^, started on 06/01/2006 3:51:22 PM CDT by dynachrome.
• Marine officer a "political casualty" of Haditha investigation. Source: AP ^, started on 06/01/2006 3:51:16 PM CDT by NormsRevenge.
• Survivors say Marines went house to house in a rage. Source: Seattle Times ^, started on 06/01/2006 1:59:32 PM CDT by edpc.
• The Real Haditha The MSM Won't Tell Us (article has different title). Source: The Gaurdian ^, started on 06/01/2006 11:11:58 AM CDT by AmericanYankee.
• Pentagon Haditha inquiry finds false reports- WPost. Source: Reuters ^, started on 06/01/2006 9:06:38 AM CDT by delacoert.
• Marine injured in Haditha talks about massacre (see the Video Interview). Source: King5 Seattle News ^, started on 06/01/2006 8:13:43 AM CDT by bobsunshine.
• Family of slain Marine doubts Haditha reports (New interview + great tribute). Source: MSNBC/AP ^, started on 05/31/2006 8:01:26 PM CDT by pissant.
• Probe Finds Haditha Killings Unprovoked. Source: Reuters ^, started on 05/31/2006 6:01:53 PM CDT by Types_with_Fist.
• White House: Haditha details to be public. Source: AP/Yahoo ^, started on 05/31/2006 8:20:21 AM CDT by Coop.
• Father of Marine Backs Son's Iraq Comrades. Source: Forbes/AP ^, started on 05/31/2006 1:02:15 PM CDT by pissant.
• A reporter's shock at the Haditha allegation (Was embedded with Marines - different perspective). Source: CNN ^, started on 05/30/2006 2:49:13 PM CDT by gondramB.
• Iraqis' Accounts Link Marines to the Mass Killing of Civilians. Source: New York Times ^, started on 05/30/2006 2:03:35 PM CDT by delacoert.
• Pilotless plane took video of town where Iraqis died (Important). Source: Mercury News/WaPost ^, started on 05/30/2006 12:13:00 PM CDT by pissant.
• On a Marine Base, Disbelief Over Charges. Source: New York Times ^, started on 05/30/2006 8:00:23 AM CDT by Peach.
• Drone's Video May Aid Marine Inquiry. Source: Washington Post ^, started on 05/29/2006 11:45:20 PM CDT by Lancey Howard.
• Evidence of massacre by Marines caught on film. Source: The Courier Mail ^, started on 05/29/2006 10:36:31 PM CDT by MinorityRepublican.
• Marine at Haditha: 'I Can Still Smell the Blood'. Source: ABC News ^, started on 05/29/2006 8:12:03 PM CDT by marli
• Probe Finds Marines Killed Unarmed Iraqi Civilians. Source: Los Angeles Times ^, started on 05/27/2006 6:37:13 AM CDT by billorites.

Related articles:

• FACTBOX-Investigation into Haditha killings in Iraq
• New Witness Describes Alleged Iraq Atrocity
• Three versions from the surviving child (Safa Younis Salim):
  • Iraqis' Accounts Link Marines to the Mass Killing of Civilians
  • Iraqis: Marines Killed 24 Civilians
  • What happened in Haditha?
• Marines' families discuss Iraq incident
• Military Inquiry Contradicts Marines Account Of Haditha Deaths
• Collateral Damage or Civilian Massacre in Haditha? old (Mar. 19, 2006)
• Pendleton Marine dies in explosion old -- original? (Nov. 22, 2005)

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[Txsleuth]

Thanks for all of your hard work, delacoert.

[Doc91678]

Dr. Walid (Wahlid) sounds to me like the other doctor that was killing wounded Iraqi civilians.
I think if the NCIS looks deeply into this alleged massacre they will find the terrorists behind it. That is including this doctor.
Wish I had some ARVN interrogators right now. I know we would get to the bottom of this.

[Shelayne]

I think you are right. This is getting stinkier by the minute.

Can our media be this STUPID or this filled with hatred that they would not question the fact that it is IRAQIs that have provided them with their info--including and especially this very anti-American doctor??

I am speechless!

[Sam Hill]

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[Shelayne]

Wow! That is some list you've compiled! Thanks for all your work!

If you would be so kind, I would like to be on your ping list for Haditha. Thanks!

[Shelayne]

OH MY DEAR LORD!

I am sick! Like cockroaches, if there is one...

I want to SCREAM!

[delacoert]

Done

[bboop]

He raised a lot of money for that cop in LA -- was he the one smeared on the OJ trial? The cop was SO grateful. I do not like MS's rants, but I was all for that. And this -- raising money to support the Marines/ get them a good lawyer. I'm all for it. The Truth will come out.

[beaversmom]

I'm not sure which police officer(s) he raised money for. I'm thinking the officer that was kneed by a teenager and then punched him in the face was one of the officers he supported--I could be wrong.

[Shelayne]

Thank you! :^)

[peggybac]

"And .. how do we know that the room was not full of insurgents .. "

Exactly. A few Viet Nam Marine vets I spoke to didn't even flinch about what happened. Unfortunately, there is always collateral damage. Only the men who have fought in war can understand it. All those marines could be dead right now - we just don't know. Instead, they are in solitary confinement. God bless them.

[WOSG]

This doctor is a part of the propaganda front for the insurgents.

When thinking about the GWOT think about it just like the cold war.

These insurgents are very much like the worst kind of left-wing terrorist organization, and the agitprop here is not much different at all.

[VA40]

Can ammo you've got stored in your little terrorist home go boom and kill everyone on accident?

[tflabo]

"Savage is consumed by hate for Bush. Savagae hates Arabs, Moslems in particular, as the Dubai Ports ravings proved."

You are dead wrong...Savage has respect for Bush but he voices his criticisms when he thinks Bush leans left. Savage does not hate Muslims....he rails against Islamo radical terrorists. Savage has passion, guts and intelligence. SOmetimes he is a moody SOB but never doubt his patriotism nor his love for America and its future.

[gondramB]

>>Being the highest ranking doctor on the scene, Wahid (Walid) is probably the person who filled out the death certificates, or he ordered them filled out.<<

Sam, this is another good find.

I'm from a military family and God knows there are issues and inefficiencies in the military but I would bet my life that President Bush and the marines will not have these marines convicted based on the word of a hostile doctor without independent verifiable evidence.

[Sam Hill]

Still more from our hero, via his comrades at Uruknet:

Appeal For Help Sectarian Cleansing and Coercive Displacement

Abdul Wahab Al Obeidi

March 24, 2006

Undeclared sectarian war and bloodshed are still underway in Iraq, regardless of non-stop calls to put an end to them, which are warning against being dragged into civil war, which will definitely end up with casualties from all parties involved.

Below are the details of this ongoing war:

On March 2, 2006, an envoy of the Voice of Freedom for Human Rights [his group] and the Red Crescent visited Al-Fursan Village, located near An-Nahrawan in Madaen. It comprises of 60 brick and mud houses, inhabited by more than 60 Sunni families. The village is surrounded by a number of predominantly Shiite villages, decorated with black and red flags.

On February 27, 2006, Al-Fursan village was attacked by hordes of men in black, who were driving cars of the ministry of interior and state-backed militias. A large number of the villagers fled their homes. Eight people, including the Imam of the village mosque, whose name is Abu Aisha, and a ten year-old boy called Adnan Midab, were executed. Please find the attached photograph of the room in which Adnan was hiding and was later killed. A number of dead animals (sheep, cows and dogs) were also shot at by the attackers.

The village mosque was sabotaged and burned down like almost all the houses in the village. When the relief workers and VOF envoy were in the village, four men, who were hiding outside the village came back stealthily to recount the details of the attack. They stated that the perpetrators used machinegun, Kalashnikov, explosives and fuel to carry out the attacks. Given the fact that the villagers thought that it was the security forces, they did not take any precautionary measures to protect themselves.

The aforementioned men, who were hiding outside the village showed us where the dead bodies of men, women and a child were buried.

We saw the room, where ten-year old Adnan Midab was shot dead. We also saw the burned down cars of the villagers.

Young men stated that they have been repeatedly harassed in order to force them into leaving their village. After this attack, all the remaining families left to other places in Dyala and Baghdad.

We have taken photographs of a large number of places in the village. There is a number of isolated predominantly Sunni villages (Al-Batta, Al-Mujamma’, etc), whose people were harassed by men of the ministry of interior and militias, backed by foreigners. The latter villages are attacked on a regular basis, but it was impossible for our staff to get into them, due to security restrictions.

The above is but the tip of the iceberg. These practices are organized and carried out on a regular basis within towns, rural villages and suburbs. Civilians are asking for international forces to protect them.

It is worth noting that the authorities are turning a blind eye on the perpetrators and terrorists who have been carrying out these attacks. Failure to protect the civilians will only make things worse.

Initial Statistics

The coercive displacement practiced by the ministry of interior, the state-backed militias and foreigners against the people of Nahrawan is on the increase. The number of the Sunni families who have fled their homes is as follows:

Al-Jboor Village, 50 families.
Jabir Hummadi Village, 60 families,
Shakha Village No. 5, 12 families
Shakha Village No. 7, 30 families
Al-Khalisa Village, 50 families
Al-Fursan Village, 60 families
Jasim Ibrahim Al-Battawi Village, 33 families,
Bani Zed Village, 100 families
Al-Mujamma’ Village, 100 families.

The tragedy is mounting. People are deprived of basic needs. The aid workers are helpless. The UN and humanitarian NGOs must act and do the following:

a) Send a Fact Finding Committee of the UN, the Arab League or International Organizations.
b) Send Peacemaking forces to protect the civilians and put an end to genocides, sectarian cleansing and coercive displacement.
c) Control the east borders of Iraq to stop the acts of terrorism perpetrated by foreigners, who have been pouring to Iraq through the Iranian borders and raid and search the villages harbouring them.
d) Launch a relief program by neutral trusted parties.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=21885

Atrocities seem to follow this doctor like a dark cloud.

By the way, he has photos. Just like at Haditha.

(And why does he seem to have already forgotten Haditha?)

[gondramB]

Thanks for the ping.

[CyberAnt]

What I'm wondering has nothing to do with collateral damage.

What if the terrorists took innocent Iraqis into that house and held them there against their will.

What if .. when our guys came walking down the street, the terrorists started shooting at our guys and we returned fire.

What if .. the terrorists then shot the innocent Iraqis .. and became the witnesses who proclaimed that our troops had actually shot these people - in cold blood.

That's what I'm talking about! It was a set-up from the beginning.

[MHGinTN]

Oh, I don't doubt Michael's patriotism or his love for this country. He's a talented writer, too, as he will tell his listeners repeatedly. But he has too much swing between extremes, and his spewing rhetoric is at times uncontrolled. Ever wonder why a guy with so much talent needs to constantly toot his own horn or be leading crusades? BTW, have you seen the Political Zoo? It's a riot!