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New 'Iraq massacre' tape emerges
BBC ^ | BBC

Posted on 06/01/2006 3:19:46 PM PDT by Axlrose

The BBC has uncovered new video evidence that US forces may have been responsible for the deliberate killing of 11 innocent Iraqi civilians.

The video appears to challenge the US military's account of events that took place in the town of Ishaqi in March.

The US said at the time four people died during a military operation, but Iraqi police claimed that US troops had deliberately shot the 11 people.

A spokesman for US forces in Iraq told the BBC an inquiry was under way.

The new evidence comes in the wake of the alleged massacre in Haditha, where US marines are suspected of massacring up to 24 Iraqi civilians in November 2005.

'Massacre'

The video pictures obtained by the BBC appear to contradict the US account of the events in Ishaqi, about 100km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, on 15 March 2006.

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The US authorities said they were involved in a firefight after a tip-off that an al-Qaeda supporter was visiting the house.

According to the Americans, the building collapsed under heavy fire killing four people - a suspect, two women and a child.

But a report filed by Iraqi police accused US troops of rounding up and deliberately shooting 11 people in the house, including five children and four women, before blowing up the building.

The video tape obtained by the BBC shows a number of dead adults and children at the site with what our world affairs editor John Simpson says were clearly gunshot wounds.

The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group opposed to coalition forces.

It has been cross-checked with other images taken at the time of events and is believed to be genuine, the BBC's Ian Pannell in Baghdad says.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs5000us11; haditha; iraq; ishaqi; msm; murthawatch
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To: JstnTime

LOL! Are you saying that 250k Iraqis have been killed so far?

If not, what ARE you saying, assuming you know?


121 posted on 06/02/2006 3:37:07 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
I have an ugly suspicion that the dead are already buried as per muslime convention.

They were cremated first.

Oh, and they're all relatives of a local Sunni politician. He's already filed for compensation.
122 posted on 06/02/2006 3:38:26 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: JstnTime
Had not 250 THOUSAND died in just the first 18 months of this war?

You don't really believe that, do you? If you can find a source for that that doesn't have the world 'workers' 'socialist' or 'people's', then I'd be amused to see it. The real number is a sliver of that, even our friends on the left who were predicting such astronomical figures backed off of them years ago.

123 posted on 06/02/2006 3:38:29 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Steel Wolf

I wasn't thinking of your posts when I wrote what you quoted from my post.


124 posted on 06/02/2006 3:38:45 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Steel Wolf

er, 'word', not 'world'


125 posted on 06/02/2006 3:39:19 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Axlrose
He lacks the balls, and thats the truth.

ROTFLMAO!! Man, talk about good entertainment. It just cracks me up to see some of the idiocy coming across some of these posts.

I bet Dubya could snap you in half, Hero. :-D

126 posted on 06/02/2006 3:41:07 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Jezebelle
I wasn't thinking of your posts when I wrote what you quoted from my post.

Fair enough. Well, I guess I'd better get back to work, since we're way short of hitting the 250k dead Iraqi mark JsnTime thinks we're at. Looks like it's gonna be a long day.

127 posted on 06/02/2006 3:41:36 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: DCPatriot
Coop...I've been reading your comments regarding Haditha and I think you're the bass player on the Titanic.

I don't care about your ill-informed opinion.

But thank you. I do wish I had taken musical lessons when I was younger...

128 posted on 06/02/2006 3:42:29 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Steel Wolf

:>


129 posted on 06/02/2006 3:42:40 AM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: JstnTime

"and don't particularly care if they did. My point exactly, thanks for that it made me laugh!!!!"

If it made you laugh then I probably didn't communicate my point very well.

The other side doesn't care if they kill their women and children. In fact they use them as tools to better kill us. Our troops aren't cops and shouldn't be used as such. As someone here said their purpose is to kill people and break things. We expect too much if we think they can turn it on and off everytime and not make some mistakes IF this was a mistake. I don't think it was.

Saddam destroyed the Iraqi culture and replaced it with one based on fear and intimidation. That won't be fixed in a month especially when the people who used to be the powerful want their power back.


130 posted on 06/02/2006 4:04:57 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: All

1. How can we know who shot the people?

2. How can we know what happened in the last moment before shooting started?


131 posted on 06/02/2006 4:07:42 AM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: Jezebelle
What was the recent major screw-up at the BBC? It was reported several weeks ago that they committed a major gaffe or error on a story or something.

It was apparently very amusing.

They were meant to have a live interview with some bigshot. The BBC producer went down to the lobby, grabbed some guy, and put him in the studio for an interview. But it was a local taxi driver, not the person they wanted. He sort of staggered through the interview.

132 posted on 06/02/2006 4:53:54 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Axlrose
This story was the lead item on Australian world news bulletin this evening. They showed a fair bit of the tape, eliminating the children's bodies, covered in blood, as too upsetting for viewers.

The story detailed how the US version of events differs from other evidence.

They seem to be giving the tape great credence. Now that it is in the media, the US has announced an investigation.

133 posted on 06/02/2006 4:56:08 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: mc5cents
Visited your profile page. I like the quotes you've chosen.

My sympathy to you if by "western New York" you mean Erie County. It doesn't get much bluer than that.

134 posted on 06/02/2006 6:00:32 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Coop
I don't care about your ill-informed opinion.

HA! Spoken like a typical elitist.

Anyway...kudos to you for having the temerity to keep playing while your "boat" is sinking.

135 posted on 06/02/2006 6:41:11 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Dead Dog

"Lie with dogs, you get fleas. Natural Law lends to freedom of association, and if your associates force people to defend themselves with rifles, you suffer the consequence."

You are quite eloquent. I don't think I've ever seen anything expressed quite this way.


136 posted on 06/02/2006 6:42:08 AM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: DCPatriot

An elitist is someone who thinks he knows more about the boat than the captain.


137 posted on 06/02/2006 6:43:20 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
Uh...when you're boat is listing more than 45 degrees face first in the water, a captain is not what you need.

Unless of course it's a submarine. ;^)

Cheers.

138 posted on 06/02/2006 6:46:25 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: DCPatriot

Yes unfortunetly I live in Erie Co. and yes it is very, very "blue" in more ways than one. There was a voting district in the inner city of Buffalo that went 99.8% for Hillary! in her senatoral election. Some districts were more than 80% for Kerry in the last Presidential election. And of course we have only one daily paper here and it is a liberal rag. If not for my conservative friends here (yes there are a few) I would go crazy. Thanks for your sympathy though. I need it.


139 posted on 06/02/2006 7:09:57 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Axlrose
The video tape obtained by the BBC shows a number of dead adults and children at the site with what our world affairs editor John Simpson says were clearly gunshot wounds. The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group opposed to coalition forces.

Now THIS sounds like hard evidence. After all, everyone knows that the US forces are the only ones with guns in the region. /sarc
140 posted on 06/02/2006 7:11:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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