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White House: Haditha details to be public
AP/Yahoo ^ | 5/31/06 | Unknown

Posted on 05/31/2006 6:20:21 AM PDT by Coop

... Snow said that he has been assured by the Pentagon that "all the details" will be made available...

Rep. John Murtha... has said Marines shot and killed unarmed civilians in a taxi at the scene and went into two homes and shot others.

On Tuesday, [Snow] said President Bush learned of the killings only after a reporter from Time magazine asked questions...

Asked when Bush was first briefed about the events in Haditha, an insurgent stronghold in western Iraq, Snow replied Tuesday: "When a Time reporter first made the call."

According to the attorney for one of three Marine Corps officers relieved of command from a Marine battalion are not targets of investigations into whether their troops killed the civilians or tried to cover it up.

Meanwhile, Lance Cpl. James Crossan of North Bend, Wash., who was injured in the roadside bomb attack in Haditha, told a Seattle television station that some of the Marines might have snapped after seeing one of their own killed in action.

"So, I think they were just blinded by hate ... and they just lost control," Crossan told KING-TV, which aired the interview Tuesday.

The targets... are about a dozen enlisted Marines, according to Hackett, a Marine reservist and Iraqi war veteran who represents Kimber... [Hackett] said the highest ranking among those under investigation is a staff sergeant who led the four-vehicle convoy that was hit by the bomb.

Kimber... was relieved of command last month because his subordinates... used profanity and criticized the performance of Iraqi security services during an interview with Britain's Sky News TV...

...Hackett told The Associated Press by telephone. "He's not under investigation for anything related to what has played out in the press." [snip]

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alleged; crossan; hackett; haditha; iraq; jamescrossan; kimber; marines; massacre; murtha; murthawatch
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To: lugsoul

And just remember, Sweetheart, my post that was unfortunately pulled due to the sobs of some poor victims around here used piecemeal facts to draw a conclusion. What could possibly be wrong with that?!? :-)


161 posted on 05/31/2006 10:16:21 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Sure they do - just ask Coop. While he wants to make up positions and ascribe them to me, let's be clear on what his position is, as actually stated. He thinks the entire thing is simply a creation of the media - the investigations, the change in stories, the whole shebang is simply a fantasy dreamed up by Time Magazine and Murtha.


162 posted on 05/31/2006 10:18:22 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: Coop

Prove what? That you are more than willing to make stuff up out of whole cloth? You admitted it.


163 posted on 05/31/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: lugsoul
You're a liar. And you don't even have the decency to ping me. At least I did that when accusing you of your, ummm, liaison. But you're quite comfortable at throwing around accusations when you think the victims aren't around to defend themselves, huh?
164 posted on 05/31/2006 10:21:44 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

I don't know whose sobs you are talking about. I wouldn't even think of hitting abuse on the idiotic tripe you were posting yesterday. I'd rather have it all out there so your level of BS is readily apparent.


165 posted on 05/31/2006 10:22:02 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: Chickensoup

I disagree and agree. I disagree, assuming they are guilty, that it is a big deal based on the rules of engagement. I agree and am also confused why we continue to judge combat operations as if it were a crime scene as you so stated. The mental state of someone constantly exposed to covert aggression in a combat zone is not at all similar to that of someone walking down a metro city street expecting to get mugged.


166 posted on 05/31/2006 10:22:07 AM PDT by MountainMenace
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To: Coop

What accusations? What victims? You are just making stuff up again.


167 posted on 05/31/2006 10:22:42 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: SE Mom

Exactly, in WWII we dropped nuclear weapons on two cities in order to win. This war would be over fast if we had that type of resolve now.


168 posted on 05/31/2006 10:23:21 AM PDT by FightThePower!
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To: lugsoul
Sure they do - just ask Coop. While he wants to make up positions and ascribe them to me, let's be clear on what his position is, as actually stated. He thinks the entire thing is simply a creation of the media - the investigations, the change in stories, the whole shebang is simply a fantasy dreamed up by Time Magazine and Murtha.

So chock full of details, Tarzan! This should be a breeze for you to prove. Unless you're lying!

169 posted on 05/31/2006 10:24:08 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Accusing me? No, you weren't accusing me of anything. You were just making stuff up. For it to constitute an accusation, it would have to be based on something other than your truth-deficient juvenile mind.


170 posted on 05/31/2006 10:24:52 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: DevSix; Coop

>>>When this child admits she didn't go to school because she "knew" the "bomb" was going to go off...she is reveling the real truth.<<<

You've confused the 2 girls.

The 10 year old Eman Waleed (have also seen her name spelled Iman Walid and Emaan Waleed) stated that she decided she wasn't going to school *after* the roadside bomb explosion.

Video is at the end of this version link:
http://www.itn.co.uk/news/world_1385503.html

The 13 year old is named Safa Younis Salim and she's the one with 3 versions of her story.


171 posted on 05/31/2006 10:25:28 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Coop
I said that to consider the entire story to be nothing more than a media creation would be delusional. You replied that I called you delusional.

The end.

172 posted on 05/31/2006 10:26:10 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: afnamvet
I would like to see Murtha's military record. He's a donk attack dog...he's hiding something IMO

I recall reading this POS vehemently refused to release his military record.

173 posted on 05/31/2006 10:27:19 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: lugsoul
ROTFLMAO!!! Wow, what a shame you missed your calling as a prosecutor!

L-I-A-R

174 posted on 05/31/2006 10:27:33 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: DevSix
When a 13 year old knows there is an IED planted (that is a LOS IED) and knows not to leave her house....They are in the know and most certainly helping the insurgents.

Well, you can thank your lucky stars that you didn't grow up in a war zone, and thus be forced to make minute-to-minute survival decisions just make it all the way through puberty.

175 posted on 05/31/2006 10:27:51 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: OldFriend
Murtha is so full of hatred for the President that the fact that the Marines are collateral damage in his campaign against the administration doesn't matter at all to him.

Can be said about most on the left; outside of a few who actually do love their country. They will use any and all weapons at their disposal to regain power.

The truth always lies somewhere in between, I expect that is how this will play out.

However, instead of being responsible and rationale, the MSM and the Dem's will use this opportunity to undermine the war, to undermine the military, and to smear the President.

The ends always justify the means to them, no matter the price....
176 posted on 05/31/2006 10:28:17 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Ah, there you are. You sure got quiet all of a sudden. I was getting worried.


177 posted on 05/31/2006 10:29:19 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Or " Get the F out of my face way REMF"


178 posted on 05/31/2006 10:30:37 AM PDT by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: SE Mom
my thoughts were more about how soon after Murtha made his accusations the president was told..

Why is it so important to you that the President be accountable to the press?

179 posted on 05/31/2006 10:30:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Coop
As I suspected. You are basing your claims of what we know on suspect reporting.

Are you saying, for the record, that no such investigation is underway, and there is no prospect of anyone getting charged with a capital offense?

180 posted on 05/31/2006 10:33:00 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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