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Pedophiles to launch political party [Netherlands]
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| 5/30/06
| Reuters
Posted on 05/30/2006 10:27:26 AM PDT by Dragonfly
Pedophiles to launch political party
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.
The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!"
The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.
"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.
"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.
"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters.
The Netherlands, which already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution and gay marriage, was shocked by the plan.
An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal.
"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the AD daily.
Right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders said he had asked the government to investigate whether a party with such "sick ideas" could really be established, ANP news agency reported.
Kees van der Staaij, a member of the Christian SGP party, also demanded action: "Pedophilia and child pornography should be taboo in every constitutional state. Breaking that will just create more victims and more serious ones."
The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.
Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.
The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: diversity; duplicatethread; homosexualagenda; michaelmoore; nambla; netherlands; paedophiles; pedophiles; schwarzenegger
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To: Dragonfly
Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 . . . The age of consent is 12 in Kentucky . . . as long as the other person is within five years (17). That is true for 13, 14, and 15 year olds as well. 16 is the "no stipulations" age of consent.
To: Dragonfly
Speechless but not surprised...lots of el sicko two-legged beast out there...
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:39:01 AM PDT
by
shield
(A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
To: Jameison
Technically, wouldn't they be considered ephebephiles, instead of pedophiles?
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:39:32 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
To: Dragonfly
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:39:33 AM PDT
by
mhking
("I make my livin' on the evening news...")
To: Dragonfly
To: Dragonfly
"Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal..."
Well, I'm glad we've got that covered.
To: weegee
"If they point to America, they will find it is legal over here (it is criminal only in certain states and under certain circumstances)."
It was legal in the states of Washington and Florida, but last I heard Washington banned it. Not sure about Florida.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:43:18 AM PDT
by
NapkinUser
(Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
To: Bluegrass Conservative
That's the same in Maryland.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:43:19 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
To: Kellis91789
Nah, Mo would fit right in!! ;)
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:43:38 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Dragonfly
Ginsberg, when at the ACLU, promoted the same thing.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:47:18 AM PDT
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: Dragonfly
"We are going to shake The Hague awake!" Right....because the kids are down for their afternoon nap and they're feeling a bit "anxious."
Sickos.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:52:23 AM PDT
by
edpc
To: Dragonfly
Have you ever observed the actions of Cardinal Roger Mahony of the Diocese of Los Angelos?
The following article describes Cardinal Roger Mahony relative to pedophiles:
And anybody who thinks Mahony is a sincere advocate for civil disobedience should talk to protesting pro-lifers: Squeamish about getting too close to them, Mahony won't even let them collect signatures for ballot propositions on his parishes' property. Notice, too, that he now speaks of compassion as more important than law but when common sense and basic compassion dictated that he cooperate with the authorities in protecting children from pedophile priests, he didn't, arguing that his understanding of the law didn't technically require cooperation.
Michael Baker, an ex-priest caught molesting children, has testified about Mahony's hypocritical brand of I'm-above-the-law clericalism, recounting that after he offered to turn himself in to the police, Mahony's chancery lawyer said, "Should we call the police now?" And Mahony's response was, according to Baker, "No, no, no." Mahony then assigned Baker over the subsequent 14 years to several parishes near schools and children.
Jurors sitting on a case involving a pedophile priest in Stockton (a priest whose ministry partially overlapped with Mahony's tenure as bishop of Stockton) concluded that Mahony didn't even respect the rules of the courtroom. In their deliberations on the size of the settlement to the victims in the case, the jurors disregarded Mahony's testimony, sizing him up as a witness who lacked credibility. One juror told the press that he "found Mahony to be utterly unbelievable."
Standing against the law, in other words, comes easily to Mahony not because he grasps a higher law, but because his self-indulgent liberalism is essentially lawless. His left-wing clericalism means that he can ignore justly enacted positive laws with the same casualness with which he ignores inconvenient parts of canon law.
I had to laugh when I heard last week that he in effect called on Los Angeles Catholics to "fast" and "pray" that amnesty be extended to illegal immigrants. This is a cardinal who normally considers such practices ultramontane burdens a cardinal who waives Holy Days of Obligation when they fall too close to Sunday, because he doesn't want the faithful to suffer the agony of going to church twice within three days. Yet to advance his chic liberalism he will harness the power of old-time piety and invoke weighty Catholic language he usually dismisses as too sectarian. The Church, he proudly harrumphs against a phantom threat, "is not in a position of negotiating the spiritual and the corporal works of mercy" a phrase I've never heard him utter before.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/neumayr200604120719.asp
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:52:37 AM PDT
by
petkus
To: Dragonfly
To: Dragonfly
It was only a matter of time....
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:53:53 AM PDT
by
AlaskaErik
(Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
To: Dragonfly
In a related story, Michael Jackson has just announced that he is moving to The Netherlands.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:54:48 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
To: Dragonfly
They have the NVD, we have the DemocRATS.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:54:50 AM PDT
by
BadAndy
("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
To: Dragonfly
"A ban just makes children curious, safer " Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:55:03 AM PDT
by
Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: Dragonfly
The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.What a bizarre statement. I'm picturing trains full of naked stoned Dutch people.
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:57:42 AM PDT
by
Tokra
(I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
To: Dragonfly
Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals ~~~~~~~~
"as if..."???
I have lost track of how many FReepers have predicted that, if homosexuals were legitimized, the pedophiles would be right behind them, claiming to be, "normal, too"...
To all of you: You were right on!
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posted on
05/30/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
(Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Repeat San Jacinto!!! AND START IN AUSTIN!!!)
To: Dragonfly
An opinion poll published Tuesday showed that 82 percent wanted the government to do something to stop the new party, while 67 percent said promoting pedophilia should be illegal. So, I understand that 33 percent consider promoting pedophilia as a freedom of speech or already have such tendencies, what a pathetic clowns.
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posted on
05/30/2006 11:00:34 AM PDT
by
Lukasz
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