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Independence for Kosovo means trouble, Serbia says
Netscape ^ | Tuesday, May 30, 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 05/30/2006 9:17:33 AM PDT by Bokababe

BELGRADE (Reuters) - Granting independence to Serbia's southern province of Kosovo against the will of Serbia would destabilize the Balkans, Serbia-Montenegro Foreign Minister Vuk Draskovic warned on Tuesday. The United Nations is mediating talks on Kosovo's future status, which Western diplomats say are likely to conclude with a form of independence by the end of the year. Serbia is adamantly opposed to such an outcome. "I am very afraid of the possible imposed solution against the will of Belgrade of turning Kosovo into a state," Draskovic told a news conference. "The whole region, I think, would inevitably face turbulence." The warning comes in the wake of Montenegro's vote on May 21 to end its union with Serbia, which the European Union at one point opposed, fearing further fragmentation in the Balkans. On Monday there were signs this fear was not unjustified, as Serb nationalists seeking independence for the Bosnian Serb republic from Bosnia took the Montenegro referendum as a precedent and possible template for their own campaign. Legally, the cases of Kosovo, Montenegro, and the Bosnian Serb Republic are quite different. But Draskovic was warning that if nationalist feelings were injured, the legalities might be ignored. Kosovo has been policed by NATO's largest peacekeeping force and run by the United Nations since 1999, when a bombing war by the Western allies drove Serb forces out of the province to halt killings and ethnic cleansing by Belgrade in its war against ethnic Albanian separatist guerrillas. Kosovo's population of 2 million is 90 percent Albanian. They are impatient after years in limbo and want independence this year. Draskovic, in a speech, warned indirectly that granting independence over Belgrade's head could bring ultranationalists to power and turn Serbia against the European Union. "The European lights in Serbia may be extinguished only by a forcible decision to declare an internationally recognized state of Kosovo within ... the borders of Serbia," he said. Creating "yet another Albanian state in the Balkans" was a "dangerous scenario" that Serbia hopes will be "thwarted."

20-YEAR AGREEMENT? Belgrade is now proposing a 20-year agreement on Kosovo to be guaranteed by Serbia and the United Nations. It would have a constitution and would run its internal affairs independently. But Serbia would retain control over foreign policy, borders and customs, human rights, monetary policy and the protection of cultural and religious heritage. Western diplomats say the Serbian government is in denial, unable or unwilling to grasp the realities of the Kosovo situation and the will of 90 percent of its people. Warnings of an unpredictable Balkan domino effect were being revived after Montenegro, Serbia's junior partner in a joint state union, voted in a referendum to go its own way. Its independence dissolves what was left of Yugoslavia, which broke up in war in the 1990s. Montenegro was one of six federal republics, with a legal right to secession which it retained in the looser Serbia-Montenegro union that was formed with EU encouragement in 2003. Regardless of that legality, however, nationalist Serbs in neighboring Bosnia see Montenegro as an encouragement to push their own campaign for an independence referendum for Republika Srpska, one of Bosnia's two constituent parts. The demand was firmly rejected on Monday by Western officials, who warned the major powers would not tolerate any threat to Bosnia's sovereignty and integrity as a state.


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To: GSlob

Ah, so it is only bad whenever Serbs are involved, yes I see.

So tell us about your final solution to the Serbian problem?


41 posted on 05/30/2006 4:27:41 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: FormerLib

"If they succeed in their attempt to steal Kosovo from the Serbs, the theft of Aztlan will be a mere formality."

You got that right. All you have to do is breed like a rabbit and the land that you live in becomes yours by default, regardless of whether it is your country or not. There goes the Southwest USA. Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California are goners, especially if the Bush/Senate amnesty bill makes it into law. And I love it how we dumped on the one country, Serbia, that was our ally during WWII. And we are getting ready to allow a new narco-terrorist state to be created in Kosovo, the ancient seat of Serbia. Way to go. I despise what Clinton did to Serbia.


42 posted on 05/30/2006 4:32:23 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: FormerLib

Whenever GSlob comes over to Serb Christian thread, he brings smell of gas and ashes with himself...
wonder why....


43 posted on 05/30/2006 4:40:47 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: SQUID

Well, the line between "patriot" and "nationalist" then becomes a very fine one -- as it is in Europe and is becoming so in the US.

I feel sorry for the Europeans where it is a sin to say that "France is for the French", or "Italy is for the Italians", lest one be labeled "a nationalist" -- a very dirty word in the EU, where anyone in an EU country is allowed to move & live anywhere in the EU with no paperwork. Lately, it seems that the US is taking the same attitude as the Euros in that one gets labeled "a nationalist" for saying that "America is for Americans (native and naturalized)".

Want to see what this kind of out of control bureaucratic thinking can do?

This article is from a few years ago, but it discusses what the EU wants to do about Mt. Athos, where the entire island is covered by Orthodox monasteries and no women have ever been allowed out of respect for the belief that the Virgin Mary once visisted there.
http://www.acton.org/ppolicy/comment/article.php?id=156
The EU says that forbidding women to visit there is "a denial of their basic human rights"! Gimme a break!


44 posted on 05/30/2006 4:53:44 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org & www.serbblog.com)
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To: joan

I forgot about Mohamed Sacribey (Sacribegovic), former Bosnian UN Minister, who was indicted several years ago for stealing $600K from the UN. Anyone know what the hell happened to him? I looked him up on the web and found absolutely nothing on him after the indictment.

Sacribey was the guy that always seemed to send Madeline Albright into "heat" -- the ugly old bat was really sickening to watch playing kissy-face with all the "fine, young Turks"!


45 posted on 05/30/2006 5:51:07 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org & www.serbblog.com)
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To: FormerLib

He has gas in mind no doubt.


46 posted on 05/30/2006 7:20:30 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: kronos77

I just wish he would stay the heck away 'cause his bigotry against ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS stinks to high heaven.


47 posted on 05/30/2006 7:21:44 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: flaglady47
I despise clinton for many things and what he and his pals did to the Serbs was A SERIES OF WAR CRIMES.

But of course, GOD already knows ALL that lout has done to the Serbian people... so it sure will be UGLY to be mr. billy clinton on judgement day.

Come to think of it, some clinton supporters and haters of Orthodox Christians on FR will find the heat unbearable as well....

AH, now that WILL BE APPROPRIATE JUSTICE.

48 posted on 05/30/2006 7:27:13 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: GSlob

I heard from a friend of yours on here that you were Chaptered out of the military for homosexuality. Any truth to that, though your lingual style dictates homosexual tendancies.


49 posted on 05/30/2006 7:47:34 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: GSlob
>>>>>>The only live fascists I have ever seen were visiting Serb scientists, in the 90s<<<<<

Interesting. During 1990s Serbia was under UN sanctions and was put in total exonomic, cultural ans scientific isolation. All scientific cooperation was suspended.

Are you sure you have not seen a fascist in the mirror?

50 posted on 05/30/2006 10:51:21 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Lion in Winter

Well, the UN is indeed useless and corrupt


51 posted on 05/31/2006 5:59:49 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Bokababe
The PR spin needed the Serbs to be called Nazis for an emotional appeal toward intervention and the complete destruction of a nation who has been a thorn in the side of Germany, who has taken the leading role in Europe, and Austria for over a 100 years. Little do people know about the real history.

Austria and her big brother, Germany, has been wanting to draw a divide between the Serbs in Montenegro and Serbia since 1900 because Austria didn't want the Serbs to have access to the sea. (A made up divide by the way) They got their wish just last week. One has to look at the bigger picture. Nothing has changed in Europe since WWI. The powers still want to control and smash those who always stood in their way to control.

If anyone here were to go through the streets of Knin and other towns and villages in Croatia they would see a hell of a lot more "nationalism", than anywhere in Serbia.

They would have seen WWII symbols all over towns with flags draped on every corner. Many Croatian Nazis that left through the Austrian rat line to Argentina back in the 40's came back to their "father land" after the Serbs were humiliated. Streets were even renamed after Ustashi WWII "heroes". Yet the Serbs were still the bad guys.

Funny thing is, in Croatia one can't even be a good Croatian if he didn't demonstrate his hate for the Serbs.

The Serbs were always sold as evil people who were only interested in greater Serbia. Has anyone noticed a map of Croatia lately and compared it to the maps of 1918? Nope, history to many people goes as far as simply remembering what they wore to work the previous day. Sad.
52 posted on 05/31/2006 6:49:58 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: GSlob

That was dumb, congratulations Skippy.


53 posted on 05/31/2006 7:35:22 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: ma bell

Don't ask, don't tell...Clinton's military.


54 posted on 05/31/2006 7:37:23 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Bokababe
Sacribey was the guy that always seemed to send Madeline Albright into "heat" -- the ugly old bat was really sickening to watch playing kissy-face with all the "fine, young Turks"!

She did likewise with Kosovo Albanian Hashim Thaci:


55 posted on 05/31/2006 7:45:16 AM PDT by joan
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To: Bokababe
Kosovo can not become a Narco Terrorist state. The next thing we will be hearing is that KLA heroine is funding the Islamic extremists on a huge scale. Heroine being sold to the Europeans, the same Europeans letting Kosovo go independent. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot....
56 posted on 05/31/2006 7:51:14 AM PDT by Wraith (To have peace prepare for War.)
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To: bayouranger
I'm trying to remember the name of the P51 pilot that the Serbs saved during WW2...Chuck ???

Major Felman and Halyard Mission thread

57 posted on 05/31/2006 9:08:42 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda, no doubt about it!)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

Thanks for the info, but I was trying to show just how much we owe the Serbs for the safe return of our heros during WWII. to be clear, it burdens my soul to know the things that we did to them during BJ's term of terror.


58 posted on 05/31/2006 9:45:23 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Wraith

It's more like in the head than the foot.


59 posted on 05/31/2006 9:46:02 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: kronos77

U.S., UN, and other international meddling has exaberated has caused conflicts to become drawn-out affairs with no end in sight. Beginning with the Arab invasion of Israel in 1948, pressure was put on Israel to "save face" for the Arab aggressors in one conflict after another. We should have let the Israelis thoroughly defeat the Arabs from the gate. Incidentally, "Blackjack" Pershing begged Wilson to send more troops over to Europe so that all of Germany could have been invaded and decisively defeated after WWI. Pershing knew a Germany not so thoroughly pummeled would some day be a renewed threat. In true internationalist-liberal fashion, Wilson refused, ergo, WWII became inevitable. A handful of Internationalist and Dept. of State policy weenies have done more to destablize the world then all of the militarists put together.


60 posted on 05/31/2006 10:48:49 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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