Posted on 05/29/2006 3:19:32 AM PDT by indyreb
Once my throat is slit I have no others to offer.
Yeah. He obviously lied. His plan was to not find his made-up WMDs so that the world would call him a liar. In fact, here's an excerpt from a secret White House prewar recording...
Cheney: Of course there are no WMDs in Iraq, Mr. President. EVERYONE knows that. But you need tell everyone that there ARE WMDs, and use that as reason to invade.Bush: You mean I must lie about WMDs? Why?
Cheney: Because then once we get there, and don't produce any WMDs, you will be exposed as a liar and all support for the war with dwindle along with your Presidency.
Bush: Oh I see! Great plan, Dick! Let's do it!
What importance is this world, anyway.
The Methodist Church has been kidnapped by weirdos, nutjobs and general all around perverts. A good reason that Methodists with brains have bailed out.
Here is an earlier thread that has explored this subject and some of the background of Jim Winkler.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637229/posts
In particular post #21, #155 and those near the end of the thread are quite revealing.
Allowing Evil to go unchallenged in the world is the real un-Christian thing, IMHO.
I am a lady, so I will explain this delicately.
Someone gave BJ Clinton that moniker after revelations about his conduct with Lewinsky. The charming Monica revealed that he and the basin in his office powder room had intimate knowledge of one another.
The thing that makes mackery of the liberal theology (never mind it is extremely misleading) is their cry of absolute separation of church and state. Then there they are try to use the Bible to justify socialism ie social justice. I fo not want their religious ideas thrown down my throat. Jesus would never say that forced charity is charity. They too are fundalmentalist of the socialist stripe. Pot kettle black. I will resist socialist christian interference with this government to the end of my fife. We need to state loudly that they are trying to turn this country into a Theocracy of Socialism ie liberal theology. When Hillary and the Kerrys of the world start to quote out of James to push their State mandated Christian ideas we need to stand up. We need a "People for the Separtaion of Liberal theological fundammentalism from State" activist group. That would really confuse tham. We need to play the game they do.
Would these same pacifists have willingly lined up for Hitler's gas chambers? Longing for the peace of the gulag grave is hardly a Christian virtue.
'In the beginning, God created the heaven and earth . . .'
' . . . and God saw that it was good.'
"For God so loved the world . . . "
'A Republic, if we can keep it.' BF
The United Methodist "leaders" are pretty un-Christian themselves.
Thank you overtaxt for the pings and posts.
Just doing the job America hating journalists won't do.
I understand.
Excellent response!
What a mindless statement. This just goes to show you how delusional religious fanatacism can make people.
Unless it is a morals case, there is no way except for failure to reappoint to another term.
Winkler is a darling of the liberals who now hold the positions necessary to continue him in his socials concerns position.
He does not, however, speak for the church. Only the General Conference speaks for the church.
It has approved Just War as a sometimes necessary cause for military conflict.
Too bad he can't be sanctioned for making statements to the press that would lead an ordinary reader to think he was speaking for the denomination.
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