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Amnesty by Any Other Name...(Edwin Meese)
New York Times ^
| 5/24/06
| Edwin Meese III
Posted on 05/24/2006 7:00:13 AM PDT by blitzgig
IN the debate over immigration, "amnesty" has become something of a dirty word. Some opponents of the immigration bill being debated in the Senate assert that it would grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. Supporters claim it would do no such thing. Instead, they say, it lays out a road map by which illegal aliens can earn citizenship.
Perhaps I can shed some light. Two decades ago, while serving as attorney general under President Ronald Reagan, I was in the thick of things as Congress debated the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. The situation today bears uncanny similarities to what we went through then.
In the mid-80's, many members of Congress pushed by the Democratic majority in the House and the Select Commission on Immigration and Refugee Policy advocated amnesty for long-settled illegal immigrants. President Reagan considered it reasonable to adjust the status of what was then a relatively small population, and I supported his decision.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: aliens; edwinmeese; reagan
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:00:14 AM PDT
by
blitzgig
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To: blitzgig
And there proved to be a failure of political will in enforcing new laws against employers. And this is the real problem underlying this debate.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:06:27 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
To: blitzgig
Anyone got a user name and password for the link?
4
posted on
05/24/2006 7:07:08 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: blitzgig
Hm. In who's administration did Ed Meese serve as Attorney General?
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:08:43 AM PDT
by
skeeter
To: blitzgig
It is foolish to think that ALL illegals offered US citizenship would even accept it.
My parents immigrated to the US (legally) from Europe in the 1950's and neither of them ever become US citizens but rather neutralized citizens that is limited in ways such as they had no right to vote.
I would be that up to 80% of illegals offered the right to become full US citizens never even do so because their prime motive was economic not dreams of nationality.
So I think we can take that specific hysterics off the table.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:11:22 AM PDT
by
Berlin_Freeper
(ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
To: Bikers4Bush
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To: dirtboy
You are absolutely right.
Employers want cheap labor for themselves and the laws enforced against the competition.
I can not see the U.S. picking up 11,000,000 illegal aliens and shipping them back, and in addition, another 25,000,000 wives and kids. I think we are stuck with them. the only answer is to stem the tide of the new crop.
To do that, we need to kill the incentive for the migrants to come here.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:14:54 AM PDT
by
Lokibob
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To: DumpsterDiver
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:15:18 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: blitzgig
10
posted on
05/24/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: blitzgig
The more I read about this horrific legislation coming out of the senate the more I think it's time for another tea party.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:20:56 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: skeeter
Reagan's of course. Great article Meese tells it like it is and calls anyone who says this isn't amnesty a liar. He also points out how the illegals don't "go to the back of the line", because this amnesty scam doesn't make it a requirement to apply from country of origin. President Bush consistently repeats this lie. As Meese points out legal applicants wait in line from their home country. I hope McCain doesn't attack Meese like he did Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh and Micheal Savage, for "telling the truths our president refuses to tell".
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:21:19 AM PDT
by
blaquebyrd
(American sovereignty is worth more than cheap lettuce)
To: Bikers4Bush
Getting there. At least as far as the two current major political parties.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:23:16 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
To: blaquebyrd
Great article Meese tells it like it is and calls anyone who says this isn't amnesty a liar.
Which it is, and they are.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:24:29 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
To: blaquebyrd
I hop McCain does attack him, it will further show what a leftist piece of garbage he really is.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:24:29 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: Lokibob
To do that, we need to kill the incentive for the migrants to come here.
Hmmm, what is wrong with this sentence?
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:25:29 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
To: trubluolyguy
Exactly, throw them both into the bay and start a political revolution.
Our only saving grace at this point is the house. We need to add seats there and start running the RINO's out of the senate one by one.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:26:03 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: Lokibob
I can not see the U.S. picking up 11,000,000 illegal aliens and shipping them back They don't have to be shipped back, just fine the employers hiring them and they will go back voluntarily. They have no right to break our laws and be rewarded with citizenship for doing so, no right whatsoever. The congress critters considering this and the president are not representing the citizens of this country at all.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:26:53 AM PDT
by
SwordofTruth
(God is good all the time.)
To: Bikers4Bush
Our only saving grace at this point is the house. We need to add seats there and start running the RINO's out of the senate one by one.
Yep. I am willing to work within the party to affect change. At least until it no longer proves a viable option.
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:27:26 AM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(When Ted Kennedy and HRC support you Mr. President, it's time for some soul searching)
To: blitzgig
Time to haul out Amnestea Bags and send them to our corrupted congressliars.
Leni
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posted on
05/24/2006 7:31:11 AM PDT
by
MinuteGal
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