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1 posted on 05/24/2006 6:47:18 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 05/24/2006 6:48:11 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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The Pope is right - howver - the answer is complicated.


3 posted on 05/24/2006 6:49:49 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Shouldn't be complicated at all. Since Canada is socialized and the government (populace) pays for everything but hockey pucks, why not nationalize childbearing?

Have the government (populace) issue a hefty bonus check and a lifetime pass to the Calgary Stampede for every child brought to term and born.

Childless couples would be forbidden to spend the winters in Florida.

Watch the birthrate boom to unprecedented levels.

Leni

4 posted on 05/24/2006 6:58:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal (FReeps Ahoy 4 cruisers are home! Check the cruise thread for photos. Hit red "4" on Home Page)
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Isaiah 13:11-13 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society

11 I will punish the world for its evil,
the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty
and will humble the pride of the ruthless.

12 I will make man scarcer than pure gold,
more rare than the gold of Ophir.

13 Therefore I will make the heavens tremble;
and the earth will shake from its place
at the wrath of the LORD Almighty,
in the day of his burning anger.

It would seem that the lower birthrates in so many countries is another Biblical prophesy being fulfilled...

5 posted on 05/24/2006 7:05:35 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Why single out Canada?

Italy's fertility rate (number of children per woman: 2.0 is the rate required to maintain the population) is only 1.28.

Germany's (his home country) is 1.31.

While Canada's is 1.61.


6 posted on 05/24/2006 7:06:15 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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"He recently suggested a lack of true love was behind an increase in failed marriages and a decrease in birthrates across the developed world."

I can think of no truer statement on the calamity of our era!

True love.

The love that emanates from God.

7 posted on 05/24/2006 7:10:52 AM PDT by Pietro
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I used to think that it would be harder to be a priest in a poor country than in a wealthy society. But it's obvious to me now that it's much harder to be a priest in an affluent society. It's very difficult to afflict the comfortable without alienating them.

Personal gratification moves toward the top of the list. The '60s slogan "if it feels good, do it," has become the mantra for an entire society.

The problem is endemic in the West.

13 posted on 05/24/2006 7:26:18 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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and of course, he is an expert on marriage, and the art of procreation.....


19 posted on 05/24/2006 7:48:24 AM PDT by thinking
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I'd love to have children if it weren't for the fact that every Canadian woman I've dated over the last 2 years weren't a hardcore pro-abortion feminist or turned out to be messed up on drugs. I know this statement sounds outlandish but it's true.


20 posted on 05/24/2006 7:57:03 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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Low birthrate? We have a solution, cheap Mexican immigrants. We'll just tell them to keep heading north. Free healthcare up there, right?


25 posted on 05/24/2006 8:16:00 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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God bless Canada, eh.


35 posted on 05/24/2006 8:35:02 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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Canadian leaders and media people should thank him for addressing their serious demographic problem. It seems it's the eight-hundred-pound elephant in the corner that no one wants to mention.


38 posted on 05/24/2006 9:12:19 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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"Fair enough. We live in a free country, where no one is forced to believe anything they don't wish to believe. No one could argue against that."

Where has this guy been? The islamists argue loudly against that!!!


40 posted on 05/24/2006 9:22:12 AM PDT by aquila48
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New figures by Statistics Canada project there'll be more seniors over age 65 than children under 15 by 2015. By 2031, the number of seniors could be double the number of children.

These are scary stats coming from a country as important to the US as Canada.

A society that doesn't reproduce is sick, by definition. It's not just Canada. Western civilization is sick. Hopefully, the illness isn't mortal.
48 posted on 05/24/2006 10:03:51 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate in NJ -- Primary day is June 6)
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It wouldn't be wise to antagonize Canada. Canada could build nuke weapons even before Iran. Canada could also build aircraft carriers and nuke bombers even before France. That Canada is not a space power on their own is merely because they have chosen to cooperate with NASA and ESA. There is a superpower lurking up there in the Great White North that could be real anytime they want.


60 posted on 05/24/2006 11:55:04 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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Oh man this is going to be a fun thread.

For later.


64 posted on 05/24/2006 12:46:14 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Something I'm curious about.. what percentage of Canadians are Catholic?


69 posted on 05/24/2006 1:17:58 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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....which simply means Canada's population is turning away from organized religion.

Not really. Hockey is as popular as ever.

77 posted on 05/24/2006 2:06:12 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Hey, I would be happy to visit Canada and try to help the men out, up there!
78 posted on 05/24/2006 2:07:01 PM PDT by Candor7
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What's the birthrate in Vatican City? I'd bet it's below Italy's. Seems like the pot is calling the kettle black.


82 posted on 05/24/2006 2:41:55 PM PDT by JBR34
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