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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: NormsRevenge

>>Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.<<

Following Hastert's logic isn't congressional oversight of the executive branch a violation of seperation of powers?


301 posted on 05/23/2006 8:58:20 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I emailed Hastert, Boehner and my local congresscritter that I'm sick of the republicans and that we need to worry about protecting the people and not protecting their own sorry arses.

I'm fed up with my party...well it's not really my party but it's the only one that was viable when I registered.


302 posted on 05/23/2006 8:58:56 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: NormsRevenge
a direct violation of the Constitution.

Take it to SCOTUS Dennis, and get your ass kicked. You will lose. Your assertion is ludicrous. Capital Hill is not a sanctuary under the Constitution for criminal activities.

303 posted on 05/23/2006 9:00:26 PM PDT by Torie
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To: for-q-clinton

Same here. Hastert's position on this makes me sick and is about the last straw.


304 posted on 05/23/2006 9:01:04 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: M1911A1

The Pubbies do seem desperate to lose control of the House, don't they?


305 posted on 05/23/2006 9:02:00 PM PDT by Torie
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To: crasher

It must be the DC water.


306 posted on 05/23/2006 9:02:58 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Homer1
Then democraps just won back the congress for all I care. Thanks Dennis. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Amen! We are wasting our golden opportunity just so the thieves in congress can protect their own. I'm just disgusted...and I haven't been really happy as of late, but this one has sent me over the edge and I wrote my congresscritter for the first time in over 4 years! If we hit this hard and overwhelm them...they may get the hint that we want them to clean that stink hole up.

307 posted on 05/23/2006 9:03:10 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Torie
Take it to SCOTUS Dennis, and get your ass kicked. You will lose. Your assertion is ludicrous. Capital Hill is not a sanctuary under the Constitution for criminal activities. Hastert and Boehner are just like the terrorist hiding in Mosques while shooting at our soldiers. They want to protect criminals in their "mosque".
308 posted on 05/23/2006 9:04:57 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Hey Hastert, bend over and grab the ankles for the democrats. What part of William Jefferson, CROOK don't you understand?


309 posted on 05/23/2006 9:04:59 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: oceanview
look, we all know the intent of this article - to stop the executive from preventing the function of the legislature, by arresting its members without cause, or for cause related to operations of the body itself. it does not apply to this case.

Sure it does. Congress could not function properly if the Congress Critters could not take bribes. Or so they seem to think at any rate.

310 posted on 05/23/2006 9:09:50 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: lawdude

Oh, sarcasm hey? Well here's some for you.....

Let's continue to play nicey-nice with the democrats.

It's put us in a great position to win.


311 posted on 05/23/2006 9:11:30 PM PDT by Crooked Constituent
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To: kimoajax
So, let me see if I have this correct. US congress claims the same privileges foreign diplomats have with respect to being able to violate our laws with impunity?

Well not quite. CongressCritters can't be declared persona non grata and kicked out of the country. Mores the pity.

Foreign diplomats can be, but rarely are, for fear of POing some third world thug, Angry Ayatollah, or Mad Mullah.

312 posted on 05/23/2006 9:14:32 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: monkeyshine
Party politics doesn't belong in the House especially. Each representative should be 100% focussed on representing their STATE, not their political party.

You've got that backwards. Representatives are supposed to represent the people, that's why each Congressional district is approximately the same population as any other. The Senators, with only two per state regardless of the population of the state, are supposed to represent their state.

313 posted on 05/23/2006 9:23:06 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: mewzilla
Congress is a cesspool.

You trying to give cesspools, which perform a perfectly honest and useful function, a bad name?

314 posted on 05/23/2006 9:25:18 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: billbears
Perhaps because that Representative was elected to represent the views of his constituents and not you? Amazing isn't it?

But, because he is Speaker of the House, he should be responsive to all Americans, in his capacity as Speaker, not just those in his district, The same should be true of the chairs of committees, in their capacities as Chair(s).

315 posted on 05/23/2006 9:36:36 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: TheConservator

I agree with you -- in what world does that clause have anything to do with a search warrant served and searching a Congressman's office? As far as I know the bribe itself did not occur IN Session... This is strange indeed. Methinks some people are getting paranoid in DC...


316 posted on 05/23/2006 9:39:30 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Executive Branch should respect precendent with regard to Congress, when Congress respects executive privilege.


317 posted on 05/23/2006 9:57:34 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: NormsRevenge

What else are they hiding? Hastert is wearing thin.


318 posted on 05/23/2006 9:59:29 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Torie

Looks like they think it isl I wonder what else is hiding in other offices (with all this squealing).


319 posted on 05/23/2006 10:04:58 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: justche
The Congressional line essentially is that just as Executive Privilege covers certain kinds of documents, meetings, and other communications necessary for the President to do his job, even though those things aren't explicitly provided for in the Constitution, the immunity from (certain kinds) of arrest and the Speech and Debate clause provides special immunities for Congressmen. And, it does.

In particular, many of the documents in his office are off-limits to anyone outside of Congress or Congressional staff.

The separation of powers implications any time any branch interferes directly with another make for legitimate concern, but, if you read the Byron York piece at National Review Online, you'll find that the Justice Department lawyers were very careful to insure that privileged documents were not among the things seized. Executed under a proper warrant and with the special protections cited in the article, it's highly unlikely that any of this material would be ruled inadmissible by a Federal court.

Congress's sole redress in that case is to call the AG and some of his subordinates to Capitol Hill for a nasty grilling, withhold budget money for the Justice Department (yeah, sure) or to impeach, convict and remove the AG or the President, which obviously they aren't going to do. So, in defense of the separation of powers they're making some noise (they should) and pretty soon they're going to shut-up (they should do that, too.)

320 posted on 05/23/2006 10:08:40 PM PDT by FredZarguna (There are no jobs Americans won't do; there are only American employers who won't pay market wages)
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