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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: streetpreacher

You're right on target. The executive branch has no Constitutional authority to go after Congress.


221 posted on 05/23/2006 7:27:33 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: Peach

I feel the same way.


222 posted on 05/23/2006 7:28:34 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: mrsmith

See Post # 103


223 posted on 05/23/2006 7:29:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: All

AP

House speaker protests to Bush over raid ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637248/posts


224 posted on 05/23/2006 7:29:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I told my husband tonight if I ever pledge another dime to the GOP that he should have my head examined. I'm through.


225 posted on 05/23/2006 7:30:16 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: mrsmith
That the papers sought for were not covered by that privilege doesn't change the fact that papers which were privileged were examinedn by members of the Executive- and that is Hastert's complaint.

Better and better

But every attempt
was made to separate the Executive Branch
from awareness of un-subpoenaed materials,
by design of the executed warrant
Only lawfully pursuing the specific target of the warrent
As stated by a lawfully appointed, sitting judge
226 posted on 05/23/2006 7:30:27 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks for posting the info on Article I.


227 posted on 05/23/2006 7:30:32 PM PDT by swheats
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Fine time for this slob to start worrying about the constitutionality of things!


228 posted on 05/23/2006 7:30:36 PM PDT by Copperhead (Molon Labe)
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To: lepton
Taking bribes does not sound like anything that he said on the floor. So keeping with the leadership's logic, if a Congressman / Senator uses a gun to shoot someone, they can simply keep it in their office for safe keeping. I like primaries, vote against them all as often as you can!
229 posted on 05/23/2006 7:31:36 PM PDT by f zero
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To: billbears

I have had it. If i try to get to my Senator Chris Dodd or Joe Liebermann I have to run through hoops. I can't stand either one of them. Liieberman is trying so hard to be on both sides and Dodd is just laughable. I believe he got married just and had a kid just to clean up his image from being part of the sandwich with Ted Kennedy with the waitresss. Awfiul people all of them. What to do?


230 posted on 05/23/2006 7:32:54 PM PDT by mojo114
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To: mewzilla
Congress is a cesspool.

We are definitely entering the "bread and circuses" phase of this empire.

231 posted on 05/23/2006 7:32:56 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: txrangerette

Well, at this point it may not matter. It seems that by voting Republican, we merely get to determine how slowly we descend into hell.

BTW, I voted in our Republican primary today.


232 posted on 05/23/2006 7:33:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Mo1

I have a sneaking suspicion that Hastert and Frist are in on all of this - what if "fake" Republican outrage is targeted more for keeping this one case of Democratic corruption alive in the news cycle. It's easier to explain and endlessly hype a la Natalee Holloway as compared to the Republican scandals, especially if this goes to the Supreme Court: endless replay of the Democratic congressman on videotape, stories of cash wrapped in aluminum-foil hidden in his freezer, etc.

The best case for the 2008 election would be if it is clear in the end that Jefferson is guilty, but he gets off on an evidence-collection technicality via a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling, with Scalia writing the dissent blasting Congress. Sounds like something Rove would think of ; )


233 posted on 05/23/2006 7:33:15 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: xrp
"Do not be of concern."

Of concern I will be not, though dark times we are in. Stop the liberals we must!

234 posted on 05/23/2006 7:33:17 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: af_vet_1981
Both Hastert and Frist appear incredibly stupid and corrupt with their stances.

Roger that. Stupid and corrupt.

235 posted on 05/23/2006 7:33:45 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: MamaLucci
They ALL make me sick. Pitchforks, anyone? ;)

Get ready for aproval ratings in single digits.

236 posted on 05/23/2006 7:35:07 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Get ready for aproval ratings in single digits.

Good.

237 posted on 05/23/2006 7:35:53 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wait a minute...it's not like the FBI just did this on their own. They got a warrant from a judge. So it's not just the Executive branch tangling with the Legislative branch, just because they want to. The referee (Judicial branch) made the call.

So what's "unconstitutional" about it?


238 posted on 05/23/2006 7:36:44 PM PDT by Purrcival (Soul Patrol deputy, reporting for duty, SIR! Go Tay-Tay! Go Tay-Tay!)
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To: streetpreacher
So apparently, the Executive Branch can order searches on the Legislative Branch but only the Executive Branch can order searches on the Executive Branch? Equal branches of government...

The warrent was issued by the Judicial Branch,
and executed by the Executive Branch....
Regarding a criminal activity
not in act of legislating
of a member of the the Legislative Branch

Separation of powers still intact
239 posted on 05/23/2006 7:36:59 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Despot of the Delta

It's a good thing Congress wasn't the target. An individual who has allegedly committed a felony is the target. After the individual is tried for the crime, then Congress can do its job and expel or not this allegedly (as of now) corrupt member.


240 posted on 05/23/2006 7:37:50 PM PDT by petitfour ("Seek the Lord and live.")
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