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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: NormsRevenge

Another misleading headline from the MSM.


61 posted on 05/23/2006 6:19:58 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for that article. Answered a lot of my questions.


62 posted on 05/23/2006 6:20:32 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe they should raid Hastert's office next?


63 posted on 05/23/2006 6:21:27 PM PDT by TommyDale (North Carolina looks forward to the disbarring of Mike Nifong.)
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To: NormsRevenge

A new defense, the police call them rolling papers, I call them legislative papers.


64 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:07 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Liberalism is like a religion....islam)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tell it to the judge who issued the warrant. They were probably looking for the missing $10,000.


65 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:18 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hastert has a point.

The relevant language is in Article I, sections 5 and 6: "Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members... and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide. Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member....They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place".

It is clearly the intent of the Constitution that Members be sheltered from the actions of the Executive, and for good reason.

The fault that scumbags are in congress is the fault of the People, and the remedy is every two years.

66 posted on 05/23/2006 6:22:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just when you think the Republicans cannot possibly do anything to top the last insanely stupid thing they did, they dig deep and show just how out of touch they really are.

Anybody know of viable third party that doesn't embarrass their base on a daily basis?


67 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:09 PM PDT by CheezyD
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To: NormsRevenge

One more reason why W is the champ.


68 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:09 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: NormsRevenge

If this is Hastert's response, perhaps he does need to be demoted.


69 posted on 05/23/2006 6:23:17 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: rottndog

He's been just a little bit more effective than Frist, which is to say, not a lot.


70 posted on 05/23/2006 6:24:02 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: ThreePuttinDude

The whole thing is worrisome. I posted on another thread, we only know about the corruptions we know about. How many other corruptions that we don't know about?

If I read this correctly, the guy was caught taking $400,000 in bribe money. But they only found $90k in his freezer. Where did the rest go?

$400,000 for a congressman's vote seems like a lot of money, which leads me to suspect he may have been a bag man, and redistributed that $400,000 to others in on his corruptions.


71 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:09 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: NormsRevenge

Someone check Denny's freezer.


72 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:30 PM PDT by kenth
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To: K-oneTexas
I bet Enron or Arkadelphia or Tyco, et al wish their offices were there.

Or that they could rent some space from a Congresscritter for their most incriminating files. Don't think it wouldn't happen if Congressional space is declared inviolate

73 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:37 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: Crooked Constituent

I bet you are 100 percent correct, sir.


74 posted on 05/23/2006 6:25:38 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: monkeyshine

You're welcome- it answered many of mine too.

When I just listen to soundbites- I'm a basket-case! This "outrage" by Newt and Hastert etc got me really curious so I went digging:) Lo and behold- there's more to the story than at first appears.


75 posted on 05/23/2006 6:26:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: Crooked Constituent

It makes one wonder if we ought to just write off 2006. W won't let Congress do anything too nutty in his last two years.

Just start gearing up for 1994 part II in 2008.


76 posted on 05/23/2006 6:27:02 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: NormsRevenge

I can't remember the last time I was so disgusted with OUR side of the aisle. The elitism shown by Congress is going to doom this country and I vowed today that the GOP will never, ever get another red cent from me.


77 posted on 05/23/2006 6:27:16 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: Jim Noble
They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place".

1) He wasn't arrested in the House

2) I think the taking bribes would fall under the Felony part

78 posted on 05/23/2006 6:27:26 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Jim Noble

They did such a good job investigating themselves in 1994. Remeber the House Post Office scandal?

http://www.heritage.org/Research/GovernmentReform/EM375.cfm


79 posted on 05/23/2006 6:28:16 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: SE Mom

The feds have been bending over backward to get this guy...it appears that we have a double standard of law enforcement in this nation...full blown and scary as hell.


80 posted on 05/23/2006 6:28:54 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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