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Hastert tells President Bush FBI raid was unconstitutional
The Hill ^ | 5/24/06 | Patrick O'Connor

Posted on 05/23/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) told President Bush yesterday that he is concerned the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s (FBI) raid on Rep. William Jefferson’s (D-La.) congressional office over the weekend was a direct violation of the Constitution.

Hastert raised concerns that the FBI’s unannounced seizure of congressional documents during a raid of Jefferson’s Rayburn office Saturday night violated the separation of powers between the two branches of government as they are defined by the Constitution.

“The Speaker spoke candidly with the president about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s raid over the weekend,” Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said yesterday in confirming his boss’s remarks.

Hastert told reporters yesterday that he understands the reasons for the investigation but objected to the manner in which the raid was conducted.

“My opinion is they took the wrong path,” Hastert said. “They need to back up, and we need to go from there.”

Republican objections are independent of any facts in the corruption probe against Jefferson. Their complaints pertain solely to constitutional questions about the raid itself.

The issue is not clear-cut for both parties. Republicans have repeatedly cited the Jefferson probe as an example of Democratic malfeasance in the face of charges about their own “culture of corruption.” On the Democratic side of the aisle, the investigation itself undermines the effectiveness of their efforts to tar Republicans with the corruption issue.

Jefferson is being investigated to see if he influenced legislation in exchange for a number of elaborate, illegal payment schemes, including a single cash payment of $100,000, most of which was discovered in his freezer during a later raid of his home.

Calling the Saturday-night raid an “invasion of the legislative branch,” House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) predicted the case would eventually be resolved in the Supreme Court and hinted that Congress would take further action. The majority leader said Hastert would take the lead on the issue because he is the chief constitutional officer in the House.

“I am sure there will be a lot more said about this,” Boehner said.

The Jefferson raid is the most recent flare-up between Congress and the White House. In a statement distributed Monday night, Hastert made it clear that he was not given a heads-up about the FBI’s raid on Jefferson’s office.

In the Speaker’s lengthy statement, Hastert complained that the seizure of legislative papers, no matter how innocuous, was a violation of the “the principles of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech and Debate clause of the Constitution.”

Hastert also singled out Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in that statement: “It would appear that the Attorney General himself was aware that Separation of Powers concerns existed … because in seeking the warrant the FBI suggested to the judge procedures it would follow to deal with Constitutionally protected materials.”

During a news conference with reporters, Gonzales defended the FBI raid but said he and leaders on the Hill are involved in private discussions about “what can be done to alleviate” lawmakers’ concerns.

“I obviously — personally, and the Department collectively — we have a great deal of respect for the Congress as a coequal branch of government, as a separate and independent branch of government, and [we’re] obviously sensitive to their concerns,” he said.

He noted that discussion to try to address lawmakers’ concerns began Monday evening and continued yesterday.

“We respectfully, of course, disagree with the characterization by some,” Gonzales said. “We believe … we have been very careful, very thorough in our pursuit of criminal wrongdoing, and that’s what’s going on here. We have an obligation to the American people to pursue the evidence where it exists.”

Congress has both investigative and budgetary oversight of the executive branch, but there was no word as of press time about oversight hearings into the raid or its constitutionality.

Democrats were supportive of Hastert’s criticism and appear to support the Speaker in pursuing further action.

“No member of Congress is above the law,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) told reporters yesterday. “I am concerned about the unprecedented exercising of authority over a separate branch of government and the execution of a search warrant without any communication with the leadership of this House.”

Hoyer said he agrees with Hastert’s concerns and was less than defensive of Jefferson.

“The institution has a right to protect itself against the executive branch going into our offices and violating what is the Speech and Debate Clause that essentially says, ‘That’s none of your business, executive branch,’” Hoyer said.

During his own briefing, Boehner joked with reporters that he was withholding his own strong reservations about the raid because of a staff request that he do so.

“I would like to say more, but I have been advised by my advisers that I shouldn’t,” Boehner said.

But after repeated questions, the majority leader expressed his full reservations about the Justice Department’s action.

“When I raise my right hand and swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States, I mean it,” Boehner said, referring to the oath members take at the beginning of each Congress. “[Justice Department employees] take the same oath, so somebody better start reading the Constitution down there.”

Leaders in both parties have said this is the first time in the 219-year history of the United States that the Justice Department has taken these actions.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Louisiana; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; congressabovethelaw; congressionalasshats; elitistpukes; fbiraid; hastert; presidentbush; reactionaryfools; sheesh; sorryfordoingmyjob; speakerpelosi; tells; unconstitutional; williamjefferson; wtfishethinking
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To: Mo1

On a Saturday? That's obviously not an effort to get the Speaker's Office to cooperate - just a polite head's up so no one gets shot.


201 posted on 05/23/2006 7:17:40 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Moonman62

Exactly- they did everything by the book.


202 posted on 05/23/2006 7:18:01 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: HangnJudge
We do not have a living constitution.

The Founders were well aware of corruption when they decided this privilege was neccessary.

The acts of the House are not subject to any Executive or Judicial process.

That the papers sought for were not covered by that privilege doesn't change the fact that papers which were privileged were examinedn by members of the Executive- and that is Hastert's complaint.

203 posted on 05/23/2006 7:18:28 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: NormsRevenge

Damn, Jeffrey Dahmer should of run for Congress, and stored those spare body parts inside the freezer in his office! Who woulda known?


204 posted on 05/23/2006 7:18:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Corin Stormhands
If a Republican's office had been searched, the Democrats and Marxist Media would be opining about how "no one is above the law", "truth to power", etc., ad nauseum, and Hastert would be in a fetal position under his desk, sucking his thumb.
205 posted on 05/23/2006 7:19:20 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: All

President Bush, right, shakes hands with Speaker of the House Rep. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., before delivering his speech on the War in Iraq at the Arie Crown Theatre in McCormick Place, Monday, May 22, 2006 in Chicago. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)


206 posted on 05/23/2006 7:19:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: P.O.E.
I love when the Dems wave the Constitution around all of a sudden.

I would expect that from Dims. I don't expect that from the "Conservative" leadership.

207 posted on 05/23/2006 7:19:52 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: mrsmith

Elections? Fine and good, except we wouldn't know that the guy was corrupt if he was out of reach, and so we couldn't use elections to oust him for corruption because we wouldn't even know about it.

Anyway, the FBI got this guy clean, it seems. Their informant paid off the bribe, got it on video, and found the cash in his freezer. The FBI did just about everything they could to protect the rights of Congress. They even subpoena'd relevent evidence to no avail. The raid was the last resort. It hardly seems abusive, in this case.


208 posted on 05/23/2006 7:21:36 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Boundless
Well they better not take all those files home to hide them. They might get burglarized and end up with the thief selling the stolen merchandise on e-Bay to the highest bidder, or better yet give it to that sleazy Washington Post reporter so that she can get another Pulitzer Prize. As far as I know Hastert is not a Lawyer and I have very little respect for the man. He sounds like he is trying to cover his ample @ss He needs to get a gastric bypass before his brain is totally taken over by fat. Hastert has a King Complex, and I have noticed that a lot of Congressman including my own have that same huge ego thing going. They think they are more important than the President, and my respect for GWB grows and diminishes for those egotistical pukes. If I was the FBI, I would think these guys that are complaining are acting a little too squirrelly, and I would be cranking out more Subpoena's.
209 posted on 05/23/2006 7:21:44 PM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: streetpreacher
If Congress is a sovereign branch of government, as it is, how can the executive branch execute a raid on it?

raid? Uhhhh as I said to others, how can the FBI run a search on a judge? They the executive branch police the judicial branch. Why can't they do the same of the congressional?

210 posted on 05/23/2006 7:21:57 PM PDT by Drango (No electrons were harmed in this posting. Several however, were inconvenienced.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Not directly per se I would think, any such search would need to handled by Justice as part of a legal process.

So apparently, the Executive Branch can order searches on the Legislative Branch but only the Executive Branch can order searches on the Executive Branch? Equal branches of government...

211 posted on 05/23/2006 7:22:50 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: clawrence3
That's obviously not an effort to get the Speaker's Office to cooperate - just a polite head's up so no one gets shot

My understanding is this investigation has been ongoing since March 2005

And there was a search on Jefferson's house in Aug 2005 .. If Hassert didn't know about this investigation then he is blind as a bat

212 posted on 05/23/2006 7:23:36 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: dr_who_2
If this is Hastert's response, perhaps he does need to be demoted.

I'd like to see Barbaro appointed speaker. At least he has stones.

213 posted on 05/23/2006 7:24:25 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Take fat-assed Hastert and every freaking RINO and ship them off to the Baja. And I'm one county over from Hastert's base.

Did anybody watch Sessions wrap up tonight's Senate session?


214 posted on 05/23/2006 7:24:45 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess CONGRESS is a FREE CRIME ZONE!


215 posted on 05/23/2006 7:25:09 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: cajun scpo

Don't you sometimes wonder where our representatives get their staffs? I thought about this today when I learned of the reaction on the Hill. It's unlikely Hastert or any of the Knee-Jerk Kids actually studied the warrant before they reacted.

Someone(s) on their staff advised them and before you know it- they're all out in front of the cameras. It's all for show- I doubt one of em grasps the substance of this as well as the people on this thread.

It's quite informative- to observe them reaching conclusions on this event...then realize this is how they do OUR business.


216 posted on 05/23/2006 7:25:33 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: kenth
Someone check Denny's freezer.

If every freezer in DC was searched, we could probably pay off the national debt.

217 posted on 05/23/2006 7:26:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: Jim Noble
The fault that scumbags are in congress is the fault of the People, and the remedy is every two years.

Agreed. The House of Representatives is the "people's chamber". The Senate of course should be held accountable by the State legislatures but they screwed that one up. They're basically a 100 little mavericks now doing their own thing.

218 posted on 05/23/2006 7:26:39 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Wormwood

Ah for the heady days of promise of the '94 Congress. Kinda ended with a whimper.


219 posted on 05/23/2006 7:26:49 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Crooked Constituent

I'm with you. Let the Dems take over. At least we'll have crooks in control that we can depend on.


220 posted on 05/23/2006 7:27:03 PM PDT by baiamonte
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