Posted on 05/20/2006 5:11:47 PM PDT by gwb43_2004
As a candidate in 2000, George W. Bush was a Rorschach test. Country Club Republicans saw him as another George H.W. Bush; some conservatives, thinking wishfully, saw him as another Ronald Reagan. He called himself a "compassionate conservative," which meant whatever one wanted it to mean. Experts from across the party's spectrum were flown to Austin to brief Bush and reported back: "He's one of us."
Republicans were desperate to retake the White House, conservatives were desperate to get the Clinton liberals out and there was no direct heir to Reagan running for president. So most conservatives supported Bush as the strongest candidate -- some enthusiastically and some, like me, reluctantly. After the disastrous presidency of his father, our support for the son was a triumph of hope over experience.
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i actually felt nauseous.
ditto. friend. exactly the same. i remember rushing home from work to squeeze in a vote for gwb against that vile, disgusting, social climbing, insincere, traitorous pos john kerry in 2004. and even then, i knew that the choice was: do you want to vote for a man who will rape and kill your wife in front of your precious baby daughter, or one who will kill your daughter first?
that, sir, is profound.
well put.
"No warship of the United States has ever struck it colors in the face of the enemy.
USS Pueblo?"
Spy ship, not a warship. This jewel is why I specified warships. Its skipper probably saved the life of his crew but I don't think I would have surrendered the ship. Some issues are larger than the fates of the people involved.
What was his well-publicized position on immigration and guest workers in those campaigns?
Oh he should just let the Congress have its way? You have heard of checks and balances?
Once upon a time the President had some clout in spending decisions. In 1974 that changed
Yeap go read a Bible and have a church meeting there and see what happens to you.
Likely nothing. Certainly, not more than if you should in Red China which owns serveral port facilities here and is not an ally in the WOT.
so too was Bush the three stooges running the show IMO
My opinion is blaming the President for Acts of God and Democratic incompetence is not conservative.
He doesn't have to accept anything.
No he was the liberal RINO incumbent that could have been defeated.
True, OTOH, opposing him could have divided the party and caused us to lose everything. Do you remember who the Gipper's choice for VP would have been in 1976? Do you remember that George H.W. Bush was "pro choice" when he was picked as Reagan's VP in 1980?
What has that support of the President got him? calls for wire tap probes?
And you're against wire taps remember hmmmmm?
Never said they did I said tougher border entry standards
You don't think standards have gotten tougher????
Dubya is just a big supporter of the UN. He keeps funding them.
Congress keeps funding them.
When he referred to the Minutemen as 'vigilantes.'
That was my moment too. I was shocked that he would say that in a discussion with Vincente!!!
To deny that the Pueblo, while spying off the coast of North Korea, was a warship requires one to deny that our nuclear subs while spying on Soviet Russia were not "warships."
I agree with your judgment, however, that she should not have struck the colors.
I told ya'll in 1999 Bush was not a conservative and would be a terrible (conservative) president. I was right.
Right. Like the Tax Cuts, Fighting the war on terror, pushing for Social Security reform, pushing for tort reform, his judicial appointees, sending John Bolton to the UN....
Right exactly what algore would do.
Dirty little secert time
The ROK Atr Force said they would be willing to put a fighter CAP over the Pueblo, 5th Air Force said no thanks we'll take care of it. The trouble was the only two US aircraft on alert were not armed with the right weapons. What kind of weapons? Well let's just sau there was only one bomb on each plane.
Not me. And the line below was the big clue.
He called himself a "compassionate conservative," which meant whatever one wanted it to mean." Conservatism is COMPASSIONATE and doesn't need such exclaimers.
Your response suggests that you're not paying attention to the entire conversation. Read the the rest of the thread, please.
"I've never seen conservatives so downright fed up as they are today. The current relationship between Washington Republicans and the nation's conservatives makes me think of a cheating husband whose wife catches him, and forgives him, time and time again"
The article is spot on. The Bush we ended up with doesn't resemble the Bush we saw on the campaign trail. He also is right that those in Congress have continued to poke the base in the eye with a stick too.
Can you deny any of what he is saying?
Anybody know what his campaign position was on the legal/illegal immigration issue? I've been asking for weeks, and I'm beginning to suspect that it was not far from his position now.
"People also tend to forget that the MSM are absolutely against this President and would love to see him fail."
How does this explain most of his failings?
"This president takes alot of heat because he is doing things that will only pay off many years down the road. "
Like allowing and advocating massive spending increases, fighting hard to allow millions of illegals to become citizens, and fighting for massive new entitlements?
I've voted for Bush four times, only the first time when he ran for govenor of Texas against Ann Richards was I happy to vote for him. I soon realized Bush is an empty suit elitest. Nice guy, good family man, clueless. I hope every conservative in the GOP has had it with these pampered elitest SOBs. No more, ever again.
"I doubt Jeb's got any realistic chance. George P., Jeb's son, he's the one we've got to worry about, but not in 2008, obviously. Watch out for him in 2012 or 2016."
I think the Bush family is finished after W as far as national elections go. We've had two disapointing elitist RINO's from that family in the White House. I don't think voters would get hoodwinked by a third.
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