Senate Votes English as 'National Language' (Ambien Dems crash car into Bush's barrier)

Washington Post ^ | Saturday, May 20, 2006 | By Jonathan Weisman and Jim VandeHei

[RobbyS]

They're are not all like that. For every upstanding potential citizen, you have a mugger or rapist. Just like the Irish immigrants. Lots of good folks, and then there was Tammany Hall and the mugs that Jimmy Cagney modeled his screen persona on.

[maica]

If they are lawbreakers, what does that make the oversight committees of Congress, the members of INS, the Secretary of Homeland Security, etc who all should be upholding the Laws of our land. I just wish that a little bit of the rancor and anger everyone feels about the current situation was addressed to those who abetted the "invasion" by tolerating it, and in many cities encouraging it.

Every time we drive above the speed limit or forget to include every dollar we earn in our tax return we are also lawbreakers. State police and IRS enforce willing compliance by having punitive measures on hand for the percent of lawbreakers that they catch. My point is that there has been virtually no law enforcement toward convincing those uninvited to the USA that they should not stay.

[proudCArepublican]

BUT AS HARRY REID STATED WE ARE ALL RACIST IF WE AGREE THAT ENGLISH SHOULD BE THE COMMON LANGUAGE OF THE LAND AND I SAY TO MR REID MY PARENTS CAME FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SPEAK ANOTHER LANGUAGE BUT BECAUSE THEY MESHED INTO THE USA THEY LEARNED THE LANGUAGE AND FRANKLY I AM SICK OF THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY CALLING US CITIZENS RACIST, LAZY AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT WE NEED TO SECURE OR BOARDERS AND PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF US CITIZENS AND LEGAL PEOPLE WHO COME HERE AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR JOHN MC CAIN TO ANSWER MY RESUME FOR THE $50.00 AN HOUR JOB HE SAID NO AMERICAN WOULD DO

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what does that make the oversight committees of Congress, the members of INS, the Secretary of Homeland Security, etc who all should be upholding the Laws of our land.

Enablers. That's why it's so disheartening. They won't uphold our laws and it's their sworn duty.

My point is that there has been virtually no law enforcement toward convincing those uninvited to the USA that they should not stay.

I agree. :( How can the problem be solved if they don't see it as a problem.

[proudCArepublican]

AMEN I AGREE 100%

[catholicfreeper]

Your right on. There are some distubrbing p similarities between yesterday and today. The example of the Irish is right on. Its not very popular to say but many people that are bashing these "mexicans" forget people like the Irish and the Italians. During the great migration when blacks were moving up North, Southern Farmers were in quite a pickle. They had to replace this labor. So they went and imported in places like Mississippi vast numbers of Italians.Well these Italians were in the early years overworked, mistreated, and they were the subject of some fear. Well my gosh they assimilated into whats best of American life and the whole World didn't fall apart.

Louisiana, gets some bashing(some well deserved), but how its handled race. different ethnic groups, different languages has taught me the whole World is not going to fall apart in the USA if this happens. I knew people whose parents and Grandparents spoke only French in rural South Louisiana. The Children of course like the folks today learned English so they could go after their dreams but they were pround of their heritage.

So, I guess if Louisiana can handle at times a huge French Population, a huge Anglo population,Africans. Italians, Irish, and in NOLA the largest Southern population of Cubans and Hondurans outside Miami then I am sure the nation will survive and in fact thrive.

[maica]

You and I see eye to eye. One of my great'grandmothers was born in New Orleans in 1865, and when her mother was widowed a few years later she returned to Baltimore with 5 children. This bit of family history drove my interest in genealogy and social history of the Nineteenth Century. These great'great'grandparents were Irish immigrants from the famine years who had the courage to cross the Atlantic, and then to look for a better life down the Mississippi. I say thanks every day that they had the courage to live through all the hardships that they experienced.

America will survive this new wave of immigration, and we will be stronger for it, - if we do not allow the dems to totally throw away all the values that have made our country great, in their efforts to pander to the lowest common denominator.

Turning our backs on Republican legislators in our frustration at their molasses speed of addressing the issue will be SO VERY STUPID, I have to use all caps to say it.

[maica]

Enablers is exactly the right word. Thanks, I will use it from now on.

How can the problem be solved if they don't see it as a problem.

They obviously wanted this labor pool in the US. Which is why I get mad at people who want to vent all their wrath on the illegals, and give the officials (not the Border Guards, but the Policy setters) a free pass, ignoring the years of their enabling behavior.

[catholicfreeper]

"What would your response be to the criminal alien question be if a couple of hurricanes had not hit the gulf Coast?"

Well thats a pretty good question. The fact that hey are here or a little different from is not what bothers me. However you hit something important thats been a part of this debate. IF the Katrina and Rita had not hit and we had this influx there would a added problem. The blogger whose ideas I posted, I am sympathetic too. However I mentioned that there were some things about his comments that had an underlying tone that was a tad controversial and generalized. I will come just come out and say it. He is talking about the black population. Well racial relations have been complex down here. Also the fact is despite the news reports that highlight the bad, most blacks were hard working folks and not all were "drug dealers" who now are residing in places like Houston. There have been reports that some poor and lower income blacks that would love to return to NOLA are finding it hard to do so because the legal aliens and the illegals are sucking up the work. Well that is wrong too. So that does bring up a issue that folks and conservatives especially have a hard time dealing with. That is the hard working poor. The folks that through no fault of their own just happen to be poor but they work about 3 or 4 jobs to survive. They are all around us. So in many ways my feelings would be more mixed if Katrina and Rita had not happened and they were in competition with illegals for work.

[Miss Marple]

Yes, it does mention that. There are many instances, particularly Israel, who went into the Babylonian captivity because of disobedience to God.

[catholicfreeper]

You know your comments about the Irish made me think of something. I had an interesting conversation with a woman in Vicksburg Mississippi whose great Grand Daddy came from Ireland. He like a ton Irish, Italians, and Jews settled in these River towns through out the South. She was saying that back in the 60's she went to Ireland to see the ole country. Well, many of the relatives were still poor the politics sucked and the whole area was still in the doldrums. Well, many say look at Mexico we don't want to become that!!! People forget that Ireland and Italy in the 30's and 40's were not exactly meccas of prosperity and the good life. The point is immigrants succeed because of our form of Govt and commerce.. That a person could buy land. That capital was available in a country like no other that enabled people to work and succeed. We are not going to become another Mexico just like we didn't become another Ireland in some areas, another Italy in some parts of the Country, or another Germany in certain parts of the country.

On a another note, I don't know if have ever come to NOLA but perhaps you should ic case it really gets wiped off the map next time. If you are of Irish heritage you would find the culture of the Irish in such a deep Southern town pretty interesting. The contributions of the Irish can still be found here to a great degree. The Irish Channel is still there even though many of the Irish have moved out. Many of the Irish Churches are still around even though the descendants are now living in the burbs. If you ever read Ann Rice her book the "witching Hour" she hits NEw Orleans and the ethnic mix right on the head.

[maica]

The point is immigrants succeed because of our form of Govt and commerce.. That a person could buy land. That capital was available in a country like no other that enabled people to work and succeed.

..and because there is a self-selection of the ambitious and strong from these depressed countries that gamble on a new life, giving up their old one. America has always "insourced" the best each country has to offer. Our national gene pool is so strong because of that.

Very good point about the "old countries being in the doldrums, while the immigrants make a better life here"

I certainly hope to get to New Orleans. My ancestors lived on Julia then DeLord streets, and my greatgrandmother was baptized in St Patrick's Church. I hope it survived the ravages of Katrina. I have seen pictures on the Internet of the magnificent stained glass windows there, and hope they remain intact. They remind me of a glazier's version of Mel Gibson's Passion.

[maica]

PS: I will definitely read Ann Rice's Witching Hour. Thanks for the tip.

[catholicfreeper]

St PAtricks on camp street is my favorite Church in NOLA. Its the one I attend when I am there. Not only was there hardly any damage it was the first to reopen and is thriving. Many Servicepeople attended Mass there in the early days of the Crisis. They still perform the Tridentine mass and in fact also have a service every Sunday where they perform the Novus Ordo Mass in Latin every Sunday. They have adoration I think almost every day. I was looking at that there site the other day to get mass times because I am going to NOLA next week.

The altar is beuatiful and the Paintings behind it are the most breathtaking aspect of the Church. They have a picture of it on their website I think still.

http://www.oldstpatricks.org/

[maica]

I don't really believe in coincidences. We were meant to have this conversation today. Now I really must plan a trip to NOLA. Thanks a Million for the info about St Patricks. I am so relieved to know that it is still "in business." This might sound funny, but I feel very close to these Irish ancestors when I go to Mass, so I can only imagine what I would feel to attend Mass in St Patrick's. Wow!

[gogeo]

Disagree with you there--we have to start somewhere. Bush is doing that, and I don't care how many people say otherwise.

Yes, he is doing something...effectively creating open borders, accepting illegal immigrants at a rate which suits them, not us.

And yet Bush is called a traitor around here, and we worship Reagan--who put us in a far worse position than he started with-- without reservation.

Reagan approached the issue in good faith, but failed. He failed because he tried to combine amnesty with employer sanctions. Amnesty was put in effect, but sanctions were gutted. He failed, but mistakes are made. No one had tried before. Repubs propose programs, but they are run the way Ted Kennedy wants.

W has offered his solution with clear knowledge of RRs results. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

[George W. Bush]

Reagan approached the issue in good faith, but failed. He failed because he tried to combine amnesty with employer sanctions. Amnesty was put in effect, but sanctions were gutted. He failed, but mistakes are made. No one had tried before. Repubs propose programs, but they are run the way Ted Kennedy wants.

This is what is so annoying with these constant slurs against Reagan on the amnesty. He was winning a Cold War and trying to prevail against Marxists in Central America and reforming the economy by slaying inflation, all while holding back a pack of Dims bent on stopping him. It was not the amnesty that failed. It was the enforcement that successive administrations failed to execute as the law of the land. No president can make his successors obey the laws.

[mathluv]

Good rant, as always.

The President will be live from the Oval Office in about 40 minutes - per F&F.