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Mexico opposes US fences
The Scotsman ^ | May 19, 2006 | ETHAN MCNERN

Posted on 05/18/2006 11:50:48 PM PDT by MadIvan

MEXICO will complain to the US government about plans to build fences and deploy troops along the border to curb illegal immigration, the foreign minister said yesterday.

Mexico has pushed for sweeping immigration reforms to help millions of Mexicans work legally in the United States but it fears Washington is more interested in keeping them out.

Luis Ernesto Derbez, the foreign minister, said Mexico would send a note protesting about plans to secure the 2,000-mile border, which hundreds of thousands of Mexicans cross every year in search of jobs.

"There are 12 million Mexicans on the other side, 12 million people who live every day in anguish about the need for a reform to let them live peacefully," he said.

The US Senate passed a bill that would see 370 miles of fences built at strategic points.

George Bush, the US president, was travelling to the border town of Yuma, Arizona, yesterday to press his case for tougher entry controls combined with reforms that would give millions of immigrants a chance to become US citizens.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boofreakinghoo; fence; mexico
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To: MadIvan
Mexico has pushed for sweeping immigration reforms to help millions of Mexicans work legally in the United States but it fears Washington is more interested in keeping them out.

Gee .. what gave them the hint?

41 posted on 05/19/2006 2:46:32 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: MadIvan
re :If indeed the flow is halted, it should act as as a stimulus for Mexico to get their house in order.

One hopes, it can go either way.

I am not an expert on Mexico or the present administration but it has a history of civil war, military coup, political and economic corruption and political assassinations.

I am not sure what the current US game plan is.

But in each scenario of a Mexican Civil War, the US army is sent into intervene.

Of course this was during the Cold War, I have no idea what the game plan is now.

42 posted on 05/19/2006 2:48:57 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: john drake
Good post, it sums up the present situation.
43 posted on 05/19/2006 2:50:27 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: MadIvan

Hey, derbez--the need for reform is in mexico.


44 posted on 05/19/2006 3:00:07 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: MadIvan

Is Mexico even thinking about providing jobs for her citizens? Uh, no.


45 posted on 05/19/2006 3:01:04 AM PDT by hershey
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To: MadIvan

The US reply should be firm: we asked Mexico to control the problem from its side of the border and they defied us. So now we'll do it. They have only themselves to blame....of course the US will not speak truth to Mexico as we have no voice anymore.


46 posted on 05/19/2006 3:03:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Liberals: Working for the conquest of America since VietNam.)
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To: MadIvan
if enough people break a law, then that law is nullified

You've just stated a thought I've been trying unsuccessfully to articulate for weeks. I say we all own machine guns, and carry weapons openly. The liberals would have a COW. "But hey, guys. Everybody's doing it. So it's legal, right?"

47 posted on 05/19/2006 3:06:03 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: beaversmom
Yes, they are really in mental pain over here. Buying houses. Buying huge trucks. Playing their Mexican music so the whole neighborhood can hear. Flying the Mexican flag. Having most of America cater to their language and culture. I don't know how people live under such conditions of oppression and stress. Don't tell Amnesty International.

Thank you, President Bush.

48 posted on 05/19/2006 3:06:05 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Liberals: Working for the conquest of America since VietNam.)
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To: MadIvan

I'm deeply saddened!!!!


49 posted on 05/19/2006 3:16:26 AM PDT by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: MadIvan

Lets just annex Mexico as the 51st state. Could go along way to solving our energy dependance problem.


50 posted on 05/19/2006 3:16:56 AM PDT by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming. I'M a BUSHBOT!)
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To: MadIvan

These people are like rude guests that treat your home like it's theirs and don't know when to go home.


51 posted on 05/19/2006 4:14:14 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: MadIvan

How can this be? President Bush recently said that Mexico is our friend and neighbor. And good fences make good neighbors.


52 posted on 05/19/2006 4:16:27 AM PDT by olezip
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To: MadIvan

Presumptious? Many words come to mind none I can share however.

The mexicans need to be told in plain english and than repeated in spanish so they will understand very clearly........BUTT OUT!!....OR
You are not the boss of me OR
You do not make our policies OR
go ahead make my day

BUT
to allow them to DICTATE to us makes us look like a bunch of weak knee WIMPS!


53 posted on 05/19/2006 4:24:55 AM PDT by stopem (Sorry illegals the jobs are drying up you will be loitering a long time!)
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To: doug from upland

and MINED for the first 500 yards where it would end in a 50' deep moat filled with gators and piranah followed by the second electrified fence at 100' deep and 100' high by 100' thick with guard towers every mile armed with M-60's.


54 posted on 05/19/2006 4:27:36 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...MINE the borders! N O W !!! Semper Fi !!)
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To: MadIvan

"Mexico opposes US fences"

Burglars oppose locks on doors.


55 posted on 05/19/2006 4:34:09 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: MadIvan

And I oppose mexico.


56 posted on 05/19/2006 4:34:52 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: MadIvan
...is more interested in keeping them out.

Now where would he get that idea? He must not be listening to our Senate and our President who obviously want about 200 million of them instead of the 12 to 20 million we now have.

57 posted on 05/19/2006 4:36:25 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: MadIvan

We keep their trash. They keep the cash. It's no wonder Mexico's government doesn't want anytbing to interfere with the current situation.


58 posted on 05/19/2006 4:38:36 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: tonycavanagh
Maybe those in command are afraid of what a destablised Mexico may mean to the United States.

As opposed to a destabilized US? Which is exactly what they're going to get if they allow this invasion to continue unabated, and ignore the vast majority of actual citizens.

I know DC can be stupid, but there's something afoot, there's got to be for them to ignore the demands of over 200 million Americans in favor of a foreign 3rd world nation with just over 100 million.

59 posted on 05/19/2006 4:54:37 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: MadIvan
The matter of illegals is fundamental to the system of justice: what the pro-illegal lobby refuses to understand is that they are creating a precedent - they are basically suggesting that if enough people break a law, then that law is nullified. That undermines the rule of law itself.

U.S. conservatives should apply this principle to scary-looking rifles. If it works for colonizers, it should work for gun collectors, too.

60 posted on 05/19/2006 4:59:52 AM PDT by Spirochete
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