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What's better for conservatives: A GOP win in November? Or a loss?
Townhall.com/blogs ^ | 18 May 2006 | Tim Chapman

Posted on 05/17/2006 10:22:24 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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THIS could be THE question of the decade!
1 posted on 05/17/2006 10:22:30 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

that easy... a win.


2 posted on 05/17/2006 10:24:00 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Aussie Dasher
A full Democrat victory.

Signed,

The Free Republic Perpetually P*ssed Off Crowd

3 posted on 05/17/2006 10:25:12 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

The only good outcome is: the Republicans learn how to be conservative before November, and then as a result of that, they win.

There really aren't any other good ones. This notion that somehow if we let the Democrats win one, it will fix things, is just nonsense. That will just convince people that it's better to go vote for a bunch of RINO Republicans and then in 2008 we'll be back in the same boat, but with all the damage that a Democrat house could have done in the intervening two years.

Well, I suppose one other good alternative would be if the Democrats learned how to be conservative and then won, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.


4 posted on 05/17/2006 10:25:49 PM PDT by mhx
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You got the secret FR mail!


5 posted on 05/17/2006 10:26:08 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Aussie Dasher

LOSING is NOT equal winning and it's NOT preferable to winning.

Just look at how much damage one term of Carter presidency did to the coutnry, and two terms of Clinton -- totally destroyed our defenses, he cut troops and equipment by 50%, it's a tremendous testimony to the quality of our troops and our current leadership, that we are able to fight the War on Terror and win and that we were able to go and win in two countries: Afghanistan and Iraq, one after another.

Putting Dems in power in today's critical time is suicidal, and may well be that litarally, not just figuratively.


6 posted on 05/17/2006 10:26:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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A win.

Let's not outsmart ourselves. The Rats know what to do with power, even a little of it. We must always, always fight them. Hard.


7 posted on 05/17/2006 10:28:43 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws.")
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To: FairOpinion
Agreed. Sacrificing even two years of relatively conservative rule is too much, especially since a rebound can't be guaranteed.

The solution is RINO incumbents being defeated in the primaries by hard-edge conservatives, who then go on to actually win elections. That'll send the message.

8 posted on 05/17/2006 10:29:53 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's a no brainer.

We must get a win.

Think of our troops first and foremost.

We cannot let the democRATs get even a toe in the door.

They must be kept out at all costs.



9 posted on 05/17/2006 10:30:10 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: COEXERJ145

Handing the Dem's victory is not the answer. Getting rid of RINO's and 'moderates' is what conservatives have to do.

My taxes are high enough.. I dont need or want them any higher. If the Dem's take over you can bet your ass taxes will go up and up and up. I am not making excuses for the republicans- they have done a sloppy job for the most part. However, rethink the idea of democrats controlling congress and possibly under another Hillary white house.


10 posted on 05/17/2006 10:30:19 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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If the Democrats take power, it will be two years of investigations. Our nation will be even more vulnerable in the War on Terror. At first, it may sound like a good idea to teach the GOP a lesson, but at what cost to the nation?


11 posted on 05/17/2006 10:30:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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Easy response. A loss would be much better for the R party. Something has to get the attention of the President and his advisers if they are to retain the Presidency in 2008

No child left behind, expanding budget, more government interference in states rights, and the big one illegal immigrations. All issues where the President has not supported the solid conservative wing of the party that elected him.

12 posted on 05/17/2006 10:31:01 PM PDT by im4eagles (and the eagles shall soar above)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Justices Stephens and Ginsberg might like to be consulted on this matter.

Just saying...


13 posted on 05/17/2006 10:31:23 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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"What happens if the Dems win the House and then use their newfound subpoena power smartly -- i.e. not overreaching. I know this is a stretch ..." .......????

Anybody who believes the dems will not go gangbusters to try to impeach Bush is living in dreamland. And .. quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing about this. The repubs will get the message .. because those of us who really care about America will see to it that it happens.

Putting the party of anger, impeachment, more taxes, appeasement into power IS NOT JUST STUPID IT'S IGNORANT!

Everybody needs to read the thread: "A House Divided" by our own Pukin Dog. Maybe a few people will get it - enough to stop this assault against our country and our President.


14 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's no question of the decade, easy answer. A win.


15 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:25 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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You never win by losing. Ever.

People like to point out Carter, but they miss the fact that Carter is the cause of a TON of problems that we are either still fixing (i.e. Iran) or cannot realistically fix (i.e. The Department of Education).

You do not win by losing in the long run. Period.



16 posted on 05/17/2006 10:32:37 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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Well, there is no debate about one thing, anyone who things handing Democrats a victory is good for Republicans has to be a ding dong!


17 posted on 05/17/2006 10:34:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: im4eagles
Easy response. A loss would be much better for the R party. Something has to get the attention of the President and his advisers if they are to retain the Presidency in 2008.

Wrong answer.

18 posted on 05/17/2006 10:34:57 PM PDT by sinkspur ( OK. You've had your drink. Now why don't you tell your Godfather what everybody else already knows?)
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Its too late for that.. 10 to 25 million (maybe more) brand new democrats(illegal and legal) aliens insures the question is a moot question..

The RINOs will vote the republican majority out of power(amnesty).. Once gone, the democrats will never let power out of their hands again.. The Clintons and minions learn a lot being out of power..

The so-called debate is a waste of time.. What to do next is a better question.. Bush, the other RINOs and the democrats have absolute power.. They're on the same page.. More aliens(democrats) and thats the way it WILL BE... 2006 is a crap shoot, 2008 is a done deal.. The democrats win..

What to do next is the question.. Might be a bit early for some to face the denial though..

19 posted on 05/17/2006 10:38:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Who does Al Quaida want for president or majority leader?


20 posted on 05/17/2006 10:39:38 PM PDT by kennyboy509 (Ha! I kill me!)
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