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What's better for conservatives: A GOP win in November? Or a loss?
Townhall.com/blogs ^ | 18 May 2006 | Tim Chapman

Posted on 05/17/2006 10:22:24 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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To: MNJohnnie

Ping.


21 posted on 05/17/2006 10:43:07 PM PDT by Springman (I listen to Air Amerika, the things I do for FR!!)
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To: Aussie Dasher

...a loss, according to those who really want a "Pelosi and a Kos-style legislative agenda." They're not really as concerned with the immigration issue as they say they are. They're socialist "gradualists" (incrementalists). They know that they'll get more of what they want, if our Republican Party quits. ...ever notice how negative feminists are? ...or the fact that they don't offer feasible solutions?


22 posted on 05/17/2006 10:46:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: Aussie Dasher
"What's better for conservatives: A GOP win in November? Or a loss?"

Democrats would whole heartedly say a loss.

Since when do conservatives agree with jubilant Democrats?

The absurdity of this question has now been exposed.

Don't be fools.
23 posted on 05/17/2006 10:48:39 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: im4eagles

Putting Democrats in power is insanity, and this requires no explanation.

Putting traitors in power is treason.

The "teach Republicans a lesson" idea is immature and dangerous.


24 posted on 05/17/2006 10:50:30 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The leadership of Iran must be decapitated or overthrown, now.)
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To: sinkspur
The Republican party learn nothing (or has forgotten) the lesson from their victory in 1994. You win when you stick to your principles.

Watching the polls and moving to the center to try and satisfy everyone does not work. One only needs to look at the map of red states from the last election to understand. This year I will only vote for incumbents that voted their Republican values.

25 posted on 05/17/2006 10:53:13 PM PDT by im4eagles (and the eagles shall soar above)
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To: COEXERJ145

Apparently, the best way for conservatives to affect politics is to keep voting for big-spending Republicans who favor illegal immigration.


27 posted on 05/17/2006 10:56:48 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: HARBER

Here's what the head guy has to say about impeaching our President.

To: thoughtomator
If you want to impeach Bush, go join the trolls at DU. Keep it OFF FR.
Jim
58 posted on 03/31/2006 7:16:08 PM EST by Jim Robinson


28 posted on 05/17/2006 10:59:46 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: HARBER
What a surprise. Signed up in 2004.
29 posted on 05/17/2006 11:01:36 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Easy answer: a WIN

Think of the United States' national security and our troops under a RAT Commander in Chief and a majority RAT-infested Congress... {{{shudder}}}

30 posted on 05/17/2006 11:02:09 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: FairOpinion
Although I am REALLY ticked off at the dunderheads in the Senate, I have to agree with you. Democrats are devils, no two ways about it----and they could do untold damage in only a few years.

I really do want Arlen Specter gone, though. (I know that's not germane to the discussion, but I had to vent.)
31 posted on 05/17/2006 11:04:06 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: im4eagles
The Republican party learn nothing (or has forgotten) the lesson from their victory in 1994. You win when you stick to your principles.

Even more recently than 1994. Justice Harriet Myers, anyone? When conservatives stick to their guns, they win.

32 posted on 05/17/2006 11:04:20 PM PDT by mhx
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To: SaxxonWoods

"Putting Democrats in power is insanity, and this requires no explanation.

Putting traitors in power is treason.

The "teach Republicans a lesson" idea is immature and dangerous."


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You said it well and succinctly. That is really the bottom line.

I am marking your post and will refer others to it.


33 posted on 05/17/2006 11:04:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: jazusamo
When I say it's "the question of the decade" I mean those who decide a loss is better will do the Free World irreparable damage.

Just as I could NEVER vote Labor down here, I pray conservatives will feel the same way about the Dems and show out in force for the primaries and in November.
34 posted on 05/17/2006 11:04:30 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: HARBER

Thats crazy. You know impeachment is serious business. I don't when people got it into their head this is some way to get rid of any President they didnt like. I really have a hard time seeing how Bush can be Impeached and convicted since he hasnt committed a CRIME.

If you represent the conservatives that want to take power in the Republican party , I better get ready to move to Australia.


35 posted on 05/17/2006 11:06:01 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: SaxxonWoods; Jim Robinson; Howlin; StarFan; doug from upland
"Putting Democrats in power is insanity, and this requires no explanation.

Putting traitors in power is treason.

The "teach Republicans a lesson" idea is immature and dangerous."

AMEN, SaxxonWoods!

36 posted on 05/17/2006 11:07:05 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: CheyennePress

Any your point is well taken. JUDGES are still a very, very, important part of any administration.


37 posted on 05/17/2006 11:08:09 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Aussie Dasher

I got you and you're correct. I knew you weren't inferring it would be better for the libs to win. :-)


38 posted on 05/17/2006 11:09:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Echo Talon
As Mr. Limbaugh, among many others, has noted many times:

'When Republicans run as conservatives, they win.'

I should only modify this comment to the extent of substituting the word 'vote' for the word 'run'.

Absent their voting in a conservative manner, what use are they? There will be civil war in this nation (and, no, I don't like the idea at all) before I'm dead, but it simply must be as well to get it over with as quickly as possible. Let the Marxists back into power, the 'Rats and an unfortunately large proportion of 'Pubbies are two a pair.

It will be interesting (betting pools, anyone?) to see exactly which event ignites civil violence, and ultimately civil war.

And no one here has any idea how MUCH I hate saying that.

39 posted on 05/17/2006 11:10:58 PM PDT by SAJ (b)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Your only choice is the same as always, to choose the most conservative candidate on offer, and keep fighting, keep complaining, keep exposing, keep fighting.

We live in a 50-50 country, and its never going to be easy. We can never relax, we have to fight every day. We'll always have politicians looking for the easy way out, and its only by throwing a fit periodically that we make sure that the easy way out is the principled way out, because its the only way to keep us from embarrassing them in front of their friends.

We don't win by letting the other side win, we win by getting the best deal we can get at each step of the way, and then going back for more, at each step of the way. Take what you can get, then turn right around and demand more.

But don't imagine that a Democratic Congress is somehow good for conservatism. Its tough enough to get a majority now when so many Repubs are weak sisters; it takes a supermajority because you have to outvote the Dems and the weak sisters. It takes a supermajority to even get a bare majority. Electing more Democrats doesn't get you any closer to your supermajority.


40 posted on 05/17/2006 11:13:40 PM PDT by marron
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