Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
Yeah but don't forget the Mexican government's special Illegal Breeding program and all its bonuses.
They have much higher limits of how many can come in from all over the world, and then when in they can bring in all their families, so one report suggest MORE than ten million a year could be possible. Not all Mexican though, no!
You don't know Nashville. I'm sorry.
I have pinged fellow Nashvillians.
Ask them Mr Chicago.
and besides ...how many illegals in my town are too many for you anyhow?
and how is that your business exactly?
You can have Chicago....whatever your demographics are to me is of no concern. You live in precisely the type of handout haven we down here are trying to avoid.
Let us know when you think we are saturated with your lovely illegals...maybe you could take them all in ...do us a favor.
Typical, you have nothing to offer but namecalling. You Borderliners are all the same. The only question is how many of you are seminar posters. You are probably one due to your calling the President adolescent names. Did you get them from your handlers or did you make them up yourself?
Ears, little bush, how clever for a nit wit. Most real writers would be embarrassed for such childish names, but probably pretty good for you!
Pray for W and Our Troops
Pray for W and Our Troops
It isn't worth having a limo without him on the bumper.
I NEVER ventured into the Schaivo mess.
It has ALWAYS been FR's policy, to get rid of as many damned Dems, as is humanly possible and then, and ONLY then, to do what we can to weed out our own tent. The Patsies were purged, just about en masse, in 2000. So were a lot of the Libertarians. Just claiming to be a Conservative, never has "trumped" trying to help the GOP be the majority and stay there; here. I have no idea why your recollection's are distorted, but they are. And yes, the posts and threads ARE here for all the world to see.
I have condemned the president, when I thought that what he said or did was dead wrong; I have said that I agreed with him, when I have. I have blasted away at GOP Senators and Representatives and mayors and governors and praised them, when I thought they deserved the praise.
I have been on the minority side, before, and have, through time, been proven correct. Or don't you remember the days of the Lott/Frist debacle?
For the most part, I have stayed as far away, as has been humanly possible, from the ILLEGALS threads. When I have posted, it has been either historical facts, refuting claims that I employ illegals ( which I don't do, have never done, and don't agree with ), or yes, give a "well said" to a post that has stated facts/ posted something salient and/or germane. Refute that, if you are able.
Your excuse, as to the whys and wherefores of my being excoriated by you, doesn't hold true. You may now think that it does, but, no, it doesn't; it's subterfuge and merely a way to placate me...now. Let's just leave it at that........
You're also very wrong about the bannings; old ones and new.
Your delight at the thought of my future comeuppance, is beneath you, wardaddy. I've never, not publicly nor privately, wished you ill.
Please don't insult my intelligence you know damn well at least half of them were American citizens. That is true in every one of these demonstations schools have even been let out in many of the RAT cities.
Argue with your own statistics. You posted there were 100,000 in Tennessee. THAT I believe.
Ten million a year is Bullshiite but I'm sure that won't stop you from believing it.
Funny but most of those getting handouts in Chicago are the descendents of folks who lived down river.
Anyway you are arguing with your own figure of 100,000 for all of Tennessee.
Why aren't you over at the Senate Passes Amnesty thread taking credit that your beloved Bush will surely sign?
There it is.
The Senate wants to give Bush the amnesty he's asked for and not one damged BOT on this forum has the stones to go over there and celebrate.
Instead, ya'll just sit around in your little clique waiting to accuse someone of voting Dem or some other fantasy while our elected officials capitulate to Mexico.
You folks are disgusting. Cult of Personality worship.
You ought to be praying for the House and the troops
There are some estimates that upwards of 100k Hispanics reside in Davidson County, over 20%. Where I live in Antioch, it is clear that Whites are probably in 3rd place behind Blacks and Hispanics. We have had absolutely ghastly crimes that illegals have committed in Nashville, the worst being the one in the past 2 weeks where some young punk (illegal, IIRC) brutally murdered a mother and her teen daughter (whom he stabbed 3 DOZEN times). With all due respect to the President, I guess they also commit the crimes most Americans won't do. :-(
I'll give you a little credit for not even trying to disguise a dodge. But a dodge is a dodge. You made this statement..."Gillespie is always the point man in calling folks racist or sexist for the White House Rokke." I asked you to point out when he said that. You haven't provided a single thing. Do you expect me just to take your word? You don't have a strong record of truthfulness. Back up your statements or back off. It's a simple concept.
And once you do, I'll be happy to answer your questions.
"But the ten per cent at FR who say that they hate Bush and the twenty per cent who say let the RATs take control of Congress frighten ME very much."
Ah, you must be referring to the last two push-polls. I noticed how they set it up so that you either both hate Bush & his plan or have to pick another choice, knowing damn well that if the two choices had been made seperate the "hate Bush" option would've barely garnered anything. Same with the poll before it. It's why the vote totals didn't rise anywhere as fast as the Tancredo & immigration polls before them. Freepers saw them for the sham polls they were and ignored them at first, and then decided what the heck and decided to toy with them. That's why the first push-poll got pulled so quickly. Before the 53% of Freepers/Lurkers who said they'd stay home or vote 3rd party had a chance to make the poll-maker look bad by increasing the "Give it to the Rats" portion.
My only concern here is stopping the wild exaggerations and you tried to throw one into the mix. Like the claim another has made that another 10 million per year will be coming in. It is crap.
Had you said something sensible such as there are too many in Nashville or we have thousands in Nashville I would have said nothing.
It is funny how the states you claim are filled with those getting handouts are PRECISELY the states which subsidize many other through the federal tax system. Illinois pays part of the subsidy Tennessee gets. Plus it gives money to the descendents of those who fled TN, MS, AR, and LA because of the threat by the RAT machines in those states. The city in which I live is the economic generator for an entire region.
So save your lectures about handouts for those ignorant enough to believe them.
How can you argue with a local. Why not let the local man weigh in on local affairs, he ought to know best.
I do not support Bush on amnesty period. He and the Senate RINOs are selling my culture down the river. It's a calamity in my opinion and a huge betrayal.
Nothing else right now besides the WOT matters politically.
I will feel free to criticize him as I wish.
You conduct yourself as you desire....and with whom. You're right. I don''t cotton much to most of the crowd you run with here. Never have.
See 3412 JSUT....this freeper has no reason to lie to you
thanks DJ
Maybe Drudge can put up a siren for you.
Whatever the mechanics of them they reflect the opinion of many I have seen here. Those are the only ones that concern me much.
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