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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: dirtboy

Serfs are always the ones to look to for guidance. Just think of all the great inventions, marvelous literature, fantastic music, awe-inspiring art, medical advances and intricate schools of philosophical thought they have given us.

Besides I was not referring to the Obsessed and Hysterical over Illegals but to the Economic Doom Loons whom nopardons was vainly attempting to educate. Perhaps looking into exactly what is being discussed before sticking your nose into it would prevent you from looking like a fool. Although I am sure there is some overlap since irrationalities tend to flow together.


3,081 posted on 05/18/2006 2:03:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: dirtboy
"I expect Bush to now try and stab the House GOP in the back by trying to peel off a few RINOs to join the Dems."

One more time: I prefer the House bill too. I am trying to get across that to blindly attack the president and anyone who agrees with one in any form is NOT going to convince anyone of anything except to convince Democrats they've achieved a 1992 scenario and not going to achieve anything but another Clinton.

I am asking for intelligence and reasonable restraint to be used to get the point that the house bill is better across to the president and senate GOP, though I warn you Senate Dems will kill it and rewrite it again and again and again and again, indefinitely.

Now I'm gonna warm up some leftover prime rib....bye.

3,082 posted on 05/18/2006 2:04:17 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Drugs? Illegals? Legalize and Tax 'Em All, Right? Right??)
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To: CWOJackson

"I spent the first year interpreting for her and the locals. I still remember that look on her face when a waitress offered her Hush Puppies."

I was born in NC and have lived here nearly all my life, and still have trouble with the Down East "hoi toide" accent (that's "high tide" for the uninitiated). It almost sounds Cockney to my ears.


3,083 posted on 05/18/2006 2:05:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Serfs are always the ones to look to for guidance.

Yeah, we can't possibly have the rabble understand or articulate what is good for the country or good for them. That is why we need wise mandarins to lead this country and tell us what to do.

You are no better than the Democrats you say you despise - you just wish to replace their overweeening elitism with your overweening elitism.

3,084 posted on 05/18/2006 2:07:56 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: cake_crumb
am trying to get across that to blindly attack the president and anyone who agrees with one in any form

Once again, BUSH IS HARMING THE GOP. Look at the damn Senate Bill that just passed. Richard Byrd is to the right of Bush now. Richard Byrd.

3,085 posted on 05/18/2006 2:08:50 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: billbears

" I did a stint of about a month one summer over at one of the country clubs myself"

I was "social director" at High Hampton for a summer-fall season, and a lifeguard at Sapphire Valley for another. I wonder if those vinegary Crisp sisters are still ruling with an iron fist? Hard to believe it, but they're probably gone now.


3,086 posted on 05/18/2006 2:09:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: VRWCmember
There has got to be middle ground between the "round them all up and march them back across the border" side and the 3-tiered amnesty-lite plan in the senate bill.

I suspect that's what the conference committee will come up with.

3,087 posted on 05/18/2006 2:10:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: CWOJackson
How many times do I have to ask you to leave me off your screeds? Please just peddle your BS elsewhere.

The reason that I posted to both you and dirtboy was to try to point out that not only is there room for common ground on this issue, but we had darn well better find it if we don't want to hand the dems a majority in Congress for the last two years of W's presidency. Rather than calling every post he makes BS and telling him to peddle it elsewhere, perhaps you could acknowledge one or two valid points in what he has said.

3,088 posted on 05/18/2006 2:11:35 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: nopardons
Strange that you would try to fit in with those who are so far inferior to you, dear. I think you are being less than honest about that.

Nevertheless, you obviously are not familiar with my posting style, although you claim to be.

I do not play online footsie, madam. Never have. You'll have to try another tactic.

Send out your evil flying monkeys, perhaps.

3,089 posted on 05/18/2006 2:11:53 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: VRWCmember

When the one or two valid points are buried in with the tons of other crap I don't care to waste the time. It's simple, peddle it elsewhere for those that don't mind wasting the time.


3,090 posted on 05/18/2006 2:12:46 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: VRWCmember; CWOJackson
I appreciate what you are trying to do, but someone has their eyes squinted shut and their fingers jammed securely in their ears.

CWO is not even willing to deal with the polls that a majority of pubbies (52-40) oppose Bush on immigration as he claims this is some kind of minority fringe issue. If you cannot even get someone to acknowledge basic truths, it becomes impossible to have a debate, because their position is based on emotion, not reason or fact.

And I would just not bother rebutting CWO, except for the fact that I believe Bush is causing irreparable harm to the GOP and this country with what he is doing on this issue. And he needs to hear that, instead of getting a bunch of attaboys.

3,091 posted on 05/18/2006 2:17:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy

The "rabble" never do any good. It was not "rabble" which secured our freedoms but rather educated, enlightened men who understood the world. It was the rabble which got in the way. In FACT, the vast majority of the population could not even vote. Maybe 5% of the population in Virginia in 1800 was eligible. In New England perhaps 20% tops.

Nothing is easier to manipulate for evil purposes than the rabble this is why the Constitution was designed so as to reduce any such input. The Founders did not even want Senators to be elected. Nor the President by a direct vote.
And they took special pains to insulate the Courts from the influence of the "rabble" knowing that if they didn't there would be no justice.

I have never claimed to be anything but an elitist. I want the BEST for myself, my family and my country. This means I oppose the advent of the WORST and the influence of the Mindless Mobs. It is also why I spend so much time on FR since that is the place where I can obtain the BEST information from the smartest and the wisest. Since I am an elitist I attended the BEST schools I could and encouraged my sons to do the same.

Only demagogic rabble rousers claim to be non-elitists so they can better fool the rabble. Those of us who raised themselves out of the rabble through hard work understand it is nothing to emulate or praise.


3,092 posted on 05/18/2006 2:18:19 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have never claimed to be anything but an elitist.

Of course, when you can separate yourself from the consequences of decisions such as what Bush and the Senate are doing now, who cares? Bush will have a Secret Service guard the rest of his life. Senators will find some lovely gated community somewhere.

Meanwhile, us working stiffs, the ones you haughtily believe don't know better, will be the ones stuck living with the consequences of your elitist idiocy.

3,093 posted on 05/18/2006 2:21:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: dirtboy

You can leave me off your response to VRWCmember...it doesn't interest me in the least.


3,094 posted on 05/18/2006 2:24:47 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Will do, then.


3,095 posted on 05/18/2006 2:25:29 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Serfs are always the ones to look to for guidance."

You're going to deserve every bit of grief you get for this statement.


3,096 posted on 05/18/2006 2:25:42 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh, it gets better. Check out post 3084. He envisions himself to be of the mandarin class who knows better than the Average Joe what is good for the Average Joe.


3,097 posted on 05/18/2006 2:27:06 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: teenyelliott

Just attempting to get down to your level; pet, so that you are finally able to understand my posts.. And yes, I am familiar with your posting style.


3,098 posted on 05/18/2006 2:27:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Yes, it does, doesn't it.

We do need that gif posted, but I don't have it saved.

3,099 posted on 05/18/2006 2:29:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
In case you missed it. I just mailed this out today, regular mail. A couple of chapters of the CWO association have picked this up as a project and it's spreading.

We're all writing the White House and telling them that we speak for ourselves.

Mr. President,

I trust that this communication finds you and the First Lady well.

I’d like to congratulation you on the fine speech you delivered the other evening. As I listened to your words, I could not help but compare their sincerity with the increasingly shrill rhetoric of those who have continually attacked you since taking office.

I know you are a man of conviction, a man who follows his principles and not polls; in short, a statesman, and not a politician. I am thankful for that in my daily prayers.

Least your staff become disheartened by the increasing volume and direction of the attacks, I would remind them that “we” elected you to lead us in this time of great peril. When I say “we”, I mean the common everyday Americans who simply go about our daily lives without becoming swept up by surreptitious political agenda or fear of our government. No matter how imperfect our current elected government is, it is “we” who chose it.

We did not elect the journalists who manufacture news and polls to suit their political agenda. Nor did we elect the single issue advocates or talk show hosts who market conservative values for profit. Although they each claim to know the secret to make our government perfect, they do not have the courage of their convictions to run for office and affect change. Instead they attempt to circumvent “our” will and the election process through demands, threats, cajoling, creating dissent and claiming to speak for “us”.

These people do not represent your base, any more then they represent “we” the people.

Stand firm and proud, you are doing a fine job.

God Bless.

3,100 posted on 05/18/2006 2:30:00 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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