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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Pukin Dog
"With that kind of acuity, are you sure you never landed on a taxiway?"

Actually, I did once. It was at Helena Montana. We had to divert there for bad weather and they only had a taxiway open while they repaired their main runway. My beautiful landing was only eclipsed by the unrestricted climb out I gave them for their world class service after we landed.

This thread is moving along very fast and is highly entertaining.

1,141 posted on 05/17/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Pukin Dog

I consider attacks on the first lady to be out of bounds. I don't know what that's all about. Maybe someone can enlighten me. I have no problem with civility. It's the Bush defenders that rant and rave and call names and impugn character. The rest of us who disagree are just defending ourselves.

But we are real conservatives, not trolls. My pedigree here goes back to 1998. They lost my registration somehow in 2000, but I've been here that long. I'm a Ronald Reagan, Jesse Helms, Winston Churchill loving conservative and a follower of Jesus Christ. And I'm so mad at the repeated betrayals of the Republican establishment I'm ready to walk away and let them turn the place into Guatemala, which they want to do anyway and don't need my help to accomplish.

I'm voting for the Republican ticket. All of it. We have a good ticket here in Arizona, worthy of support. But I have also been given a ballot in the past with John McCain and Jim Kolbe on it, and I would no more vote for those two venomous snakes than for Ted Kennedy and Braney Frank.

But I am off the reservation on this president. I am your ally. A reluctant one. I'm voting Republican. But I am finished with George Bush in any fashion. The man is a better liberal than conservative. He is wrecking this country. He has surrendered our nation to Vicente Fox. I expect to be able to make those points without being called names.

You want peace, you got it. But you Bush supporters also have to allow us to vent our anger at the betrayals of this president without labeling us "trolls," "cranks," "nutjobs" or "Buchananites." Notice I haven't called you guys the favored term for supporters of the president, nor labeled you otherwise. Let's see how long your side can avoid the same.


1,142 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by Luke21 (It's looney. It's crazy. It's insane. It's liberalism.)
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To: Junior_G
"I've never seen that proposed on any thread."

Of course you haven't. We pull them.

1,143 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: Smogger

It's one heck of a GOOD start, coupled with the NG assisting the BP.

Lord have mercy, are we hearing this vote correctly?


Reid and Obama - No.
Ooops, Reid just changed and voted - aye.

83 - 16!

YES, IT PASSED!


1,144 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:01 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: najida

cluck cluck.


1,145 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:06 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Mo1
I don't watch the news anymore, can't take the tilt, it always makes me dizzy.

I hope someone puts up Sessions admen. when the final tally of votes when this is over.

Is agreed too.

1,146 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:21 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: prairiebreeze

I agree that XA was over the line in his post. But I believe that you judging him as a troll after reading just a few posts is simply reactionary namecalling.


1,147 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: OldFriend

And they stubbornly refuse to get it. They continue to dig in their heels on this like they did, the Miers nomination and the port deal.
I have no use for any of them any more. Like you say, they think they are so intellectually above Bush and the rest of us, standing up for "conservative" principles!
phooey!


1,148 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Vicomte13

Sessions R-AL Amendment:

Funds construction for 370 miles of fence and 500 miles of vehicle barriers along the US-Mexico border.

Passed: 83
Against: 16


1,149 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:27 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Protagoras
Do you have a problem with the judges GWB is appointing? Would you have a problem with those a President Gore or Kerry or Hillary, et al, would appoint?
1,150 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: prairiebreeze

Yes,
calling XA a troll was, well.... evident that you hadn't seen all his previous posts.

Thats all.


1,151 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:47 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Bless you, Pukin.

And thank you for the respite.

Becki

1,152 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:49 AM PDT by Becki (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.)
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To: OldFriend

Session's Amendment passed 84-16.

Session's Amendment was about building a fence through 300 miles and barriers along 500 miles...


1,153 posted on 05/17/2006 11:57:50 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: saminfl
You can't look at the present can you?

Sure. But I don't wear blinders and I always look in the rear view mirror as well as out all the windows. It's the best way I know of to know where you actually are.

What in the present is it that you don't think I am able to look at?

1,154 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:18 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious".... George Orwell)
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To: r-q-tek86; prairiebreeze

What RQ said!


1,155 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:27 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Lead Moderator; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

Sessions amendment passed! 83 - 16!


1,156 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:27 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Rokke
This thread is moving along very fast and is highly entertaining.

I've decided to call it "The Highway of troller death" after that massacre in Iraq during GW1

1,157 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:32 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Smogger

That's a good start. There, there's my positive post quota for the month.


1,158 posted on 05/17/2006 11:58:58 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: pissant

Don't miff the Queen darlin',
Don't miff the Queen.


1,159 posted on 05/17/2006 11:59:03 AM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Lead Moderator
No! Get them box cars ready! Round them up! Mine the borders! Anyone crossing the border, shoot them on sight! 12 million Al-quaeda terrorists is enough!

Are you a moderator, or a floor leader?

And you forgot the </sarc> tag.

1,160 posted on 05/17/2006 11:59:40 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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