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Venezuela May Sell Its U.S.-Made F-16s to Iran
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Posted on 05/16/2006 9:48:51 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; f16; hugochavez; hugoping; iran; venezuela
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To: Larry Lucido
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:01:12 AM PDT
by
Don Corleone
(Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
To: Bikers4Bush
Not to mention that F16 parts are likely unavailable on E-bay.
(So we, in effect, cut off his parts supply, and so he's selling them to Iran, and the Iranians are going to pay him actual real money for these hangar-queens??? Or am I missing something here? Am I stupid or are the Iranians incredibly stupid?)
To: Lunatic Fringe
The Iranians used to have some pretty good pilots...before they stood them up against the wall and shot them. I'm trying to think of any of their likely opponents who wouldn't eat their current crop for breakfast. Maybe the Pakistanis. Maybe not.
To: Lunatic Fringe; All
Venezuela may sell U.S. jets to Iran, others
Venezuela's military is considering the possibility of selling its fleet of U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to another country, perhaps Iran, a Venezuelan military official said Tuesday.
In response to a U.S. ban on arms sales to President Hugo Chavez's government, Gen. Alberto Muller, a senior adviser to Chavez, told The Associated Press he had recommended to the defense minister that Venezuela consider selling the 21 jets to another country.
Muller said he thought it was worthwhile to consider "the feasibility of a negotiation with Iran for the sale of those planes."
Even before the United States announced the ban on arms sales Monday, Washington had stopped selling Venezuela sensitive upgrades for the F-16s.
Chavez previously has warned he could share the U.S. jets with Cuba if Washington does not supply parts for the planes.
He also has said he may look into buying fighter jets from Russia or China instead.
To: roaddog727
And the pilot would be back in time for morning coffee break.........
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:03:38 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
To: Sooth2222
The iranians aren't stupid, they're insane.
26
posted on
05/16/2006 10:03:42 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
To: West Coast Conservative
What do U.S. fighter pilots call Iranian fighter pilots?
SKEET!!
To: Red Badger
And boink the Mrs./girlfriend to boot!
28
posted on
05/16/2006 10:05:14 AM PDT
by
roaddog727
(eludium PU36 explosive space modulator)
To: Lunatic Fringe
We're going to have to do something about that cockroach.
29
posted on
05/16/2006 10:05:47 AM PDT
by
hershey
To: oldleft
I imagine that they would use them for spare parts. The Iranians have quite a few old US planes. Grumman F-14 Tomcats, McDonnell-Douglas F=4 Phantom IIs, Northrop F-5 Tigers.
Can't imagine they'd get any parts of a General Dynamics F=16 that'd be of any help.
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:06:17 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Here to Help)
To: Lunatic Fringe
Toast............no big deal.
To: Larry Lucido
sounds like good target practice to our highly trained pilots......
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:07:09 AM PDT
by
vin-one
(REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
To: Larry Lucido
"How well-maintained are they? Are Iranian pilots any good? Do they have spare parts?"
Based on the experience of what the mullahs did to the F-14's bought by the Shah:
-poorly maintained
-poorly flown
-poorly spared.
Let them have the F-16s - they will be hangar queens in short order, and removed from our new Castro's mischief.
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:07:20 AM PDT
by
oldbill
To: rhombus
This is just more shock and awe from the wack jobs who keep driving up the price of oil What does the Federal Reserve have to do with this?
To: Lunatic Fringe
Hey, F-16 Freepers: can an F-16 of that type span the Natal-Dakar gap?
35
posted on
05/16/2006 10:09:27 AM PDT
by
Snickersnee
(Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
To: Lunatic Fringe
Hey, F-16 Freepers: can an F-16 of that type span the Natal-Dakar gap?
36
posted on
05/16/2006 10:09:44 AM PDT
by
Snickersnee
(Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
To: 2banana
[I am 100% certain that there is a no transfer clause in the contract that Venezuela signed when they purchased them. They risk having them shot down or destroyed on the ground if they try this.]
These jets are high maintenance machines. If they don't have a reliable supply of spare parts, they will just sit on the ground.
Selling the jet would be a political move, and would cause no danger to the US.
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:10:43 AM PDT
by
JeffersonRepublic.com
(There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
To: Lunatic Fringe
LOL. Are these the ones that we sold to them in the '80s?
We never sell out top-level avionics et al. systems along with these planes.
A F-16 with a less trained pilot minus all the systems that we have can be shot down just as easily by anyone with current aircraft.
Even if true, unless there's something untypical here, there shouldn't be much of a concern.
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:12:41 AM PDT
by
Fruitbat
To: oldbill
Based on the experience of what the mullahs did to the F-14's bought by the Shah:
-poorly maintained
-poorly flown
-poorly spared. Number of Military forces flying the F-14 today - one
Number other than Iran - zero,
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:13:13 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(Here to Help)
To: Larry Lucido
How well-maintained are they? Are Iranian pilots any good? Do they have spare parts? Not well maintained. We haven't provided upgrades for several generations. They don't have spares. Iran has better things to do with their money and better sources for weapons than buying them on the "used weapons" bazaar.
I trained Iranian pilots before the fall of the Shaw. Not good pilots.
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posted on
05/16/2006 10:14:55 AM PDT
by
Ben Mugged
(If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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