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Bush Speech Ignores Criminal Aliens
Sierra Times ^ | 5/16/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 05/16/2006 6:08:35 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

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...reduce criminals to enter the country illegally or enter legally but remain here illegally.

Makes sense to most of us.

...the government of Mexico uses the US as their penal system...

Fox learned well from Castro's example.

1 posted on 05/16/2006 6:08:38 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

Oh fer cryin out loud... he also didn't praise the "worshipped" (in FR) Border Minutemen. Why not pick that point apart?


2 posted on 05/16/2006 6:10:03 AM PDT by Alia
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Why not pick that point apart?

Thanks for the heads up!

3 posted on 05/16/2006 6:11:01 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: Alia


Excatly. The cynicism and criticism is getting a "lot" over the top...and every God forsaken thread is becoming one on immigration.


4 posted on 05/16/2006 6:11:55 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: FerdieMurphy

A 'Wall' ASAP.


5 posted on 05/16/2006 6:12:20 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

and yet you are here.....


6 posted on 05/16/2006 6:13:01 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (I've seen the village, I don't want it raising my children)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Wow, not everyone has their own pet trolls!

:D


7 posted on 05/16/2006 6:13:43 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (I've seen the village, I don't want it raising my children)
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...every God forsaken thread is becoming one on immigration.

Yup. As we have seen over and over with liberals...some people ALWAYS overplay their hand. In fact, it's become a distinguishing characteristic of advanced Moonbatism and Bush Derangement Syndrome.

8 posted on 05/16/2006 6:16:00 AM PDT by rhombus
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like a train wreck, shimmer...like a train wreck.


9 posted on 05/16/2006 6:17:00 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Shimmer128

Looks more like a Shimmer.

10 posted on 05/16/2006 6:18:25 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Right. Apparently there is only one issue any more - illegal immigration. It was not the most important issue in 1978, 1985, 1994, 1997 or 2003 but it's suddenly the only thing we should focus on. Bush doubles the guards at the border and yet some cynics say he's "doing nothing".


11 posted on 05/16/2006 6:19:46 AM PDT by plain talk
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It's been that way for a long time.

During CA's Prop 187, and after the Democrat Judge overturned the will of California voters..

There was a curious rift in the Prop 187 (pro) movement. Some were for a comprehensive approach, and another, wanted to see all Mexicans deported. Now hold on. They said they wished to see all "illegal" Mexicans deported.

That's not true. That's not what they were really "for".

And since those days, the latter group has increased in volume. The adherents to this strident philosophy can rationalize all they want (and they do) about what they think they are doing.

But the latter group has been taken over by those with an agenda which some would find quite shocking, IMHO.

Such stridency does not resonate well with the American Population. And this latter group has been sounding more like the feminists, homosexualists, and racists -- same one-note charlies.

So, I would hazard to suggest here, that what these so-called immigration reformists are actually supporting is a backlash. In that Americans will decide FOR something like President Bush's proposal. They will not decide FOR the strident one-note charlies.

I've often asked myself if the "leaders" of the one-note Charlies aren't instead actually FOR open borders.

During Prop 187, there was a curious group (FAIR) who were angling for exactly this position. It seems some who came out of the 187 core, have cottoned to FAIR.

I still have a PRESS RELEASE. CA Republicans made moves to address the MOTOR VOTER fraud. CA Democrats slapped it down handily. Where was this "group" then? Very, very silent. And calling Republicans "spineless". Ad nauseum blather.

I think there are some very fine and decent people caught up in the "strident, one-note Charlie" movement, and haven't a clue as to how it will all assuredly play out. I think these people realize how bad the illegal situation is on so many levels. But I do not think they comprehend a whole lot beyond that.

12 posted on 05/16/2006 6:24:03 AM PDT by Alia
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Illegals are far more likely to be the dregs of society than those who earn their way honorably and play by the rules.


13 posted on 05/16/2006 6:24:18 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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lol! I have faith in your abilities to find an article and post in FR on exactly that point.


14 posted on 05/16/2006 6:24:57 AM PDT by Alia
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During President George W. Bush's televised speech on the issue of illegal immigration, not once did he mention the hordes of criminals entering the United States and preying upon American citizens.

He mentioned crime and criminals four times.

15 posted on 05/16/2006 6:26:04 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Unfortunately for some "conservatives" rational thought on this issue has eluded them...and now some have a nagging form of turetz syndrome. "Border Wall...ackkkk Border Wall...ackkkk Border Wall..."

Nothing short of Bush building a 5000 mile, 1000 foot high, gun turreted, mined perimeter, electrified razor wire, rabid nutra rat protected, wall will do for some...perhaps, instead of Tehran...we should just nuke Mexico City, since, hey, we've got a "hostile" invasion from South of the Border anyway.../sarcasm


16 posted on 05/16/2006 6:26:13 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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The Sierra Times hears what it wants to hear...and then issues forth with its usual moaning and weeping and hand-wringing...

From the President's last night address - Paragraph #6:

"Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration - and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers, and terrorists."

17 posted on 05/16/2006 6:27:29 AM PDT by mtntop3
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Nothing short of Bush building a 5000 mile, 1000 foot high, gun turreted, mined perimeter, electrified razor wire, rabid nutra rat protected, wall will do for some...

And cut the budget too.

18 posted on 05/16/2006 6:28:15 AM PDT by rhombus
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He did say anyone trying to remain here would have a background check for criminal activity. This article is like Durbin's pile of crap - Ready, fire, aim.

Next time, listen to the speech first. Otherwise you'll be the Bravo Sierra Times.

19 posted on 05/16/2006 6:29:37 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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And the President had the chutzpah to inform us Mexico is a friend last night! What friend makes us pay the full costs of imprisoning THEIR criminals who commit crimes upon our citizens and their property? I didn't hear a word from Bush about sending Mexico the bill for the damage. Just think about what better purposes that money could have gone to had the President really been serious about securing our borders for good.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

20 posted on 05/16/2006 6:29:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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