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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: RegulatorCountry

"I'm clinging to a tattered optimism, for now."

Based on what?


3,201 posted on 05/16/2006 4:39:59 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: Vicomte13

When you get Christopher Shays, a pro-abortion Republican, and if you are a pro-life single issue voter, the only way that you should even CONSIDER voting Democrat is if the Democratic candidate is more pro-life than Christopher Shays. If the Democrat is not more pro-life than Christopher Shays, than you should do everything you can to support a more conservative primary challenger to Shays in the GOP. It's actually pretty simple.

Do you mean to suggest that the Democrats are closer to being right on the border issue than the GOP? If it wasn't for the GOP, the earlier bill would have been passed. The GOP is the only party digging in against illegals.

The solution is to continue to elect officials who are conservative, to EXPAND our conservative presence in both houses. It is NOT to weaken the GOP by allowing liberals to take power. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.


3,202 posted on 05/16/2006 4:40:22 PM PDT by Deo et Patria
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To: Deo et Patria

I have a quote for you, Deo et Patria. And, I'd like for you to name the source (it's recent):

"It would be nice to think that the GOP might get to enjoy a Geena Davis-style “hiatus” while they “retune” their winning formula."

Who do you think wrote this? His articles have been routinely cheered, here on Free Republic.


3,203 posted on 05/16/2006 4:40:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Vicomte13

"Based on what?"

Bullheadedness? Naiveté? Some combination of both?


3,204 posted on 05/16/2006 4:42:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I don't agree with Mark Steyn's comment, though I have enjoyed some of his other columns. I don't think more liberal leadership (which is what we'd get during a GOP "hiatus") can ever be more characterized as "nice."

In fact, I'd like to know what about the liberal agenda for America (REAL amnesty for illegals, abortion, gay marriage, higher taxes, liberal judges, defense cuts, impeachment for Bush, abandoning the war on terror, etc.) is so appealing for Mr. Steyn.


3,205 posted on 05/16/2006 4:46:42 PM PDT by Deo et Patria
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To: Deo et Patria

I will always vote for the pro-life candidate.

Of course there are no pro-life Democrats or Republicans on the ticket in New England, ever. We publicly fund abortions in Connecticut. I don't move, so I bear the sin too.


3,206 posted on 05/16/2006 4:51:37 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: Wuli

You're right.


3,207 posted on 05/16/2006 4:53:29 PM PDT by Pelham (jobs Americans won't do)
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To: Vicomte13
"So, you're pissed off."

Your powers of observation seem in order.

"Bottom line: do you vote for the Republicans in 2006, or stay home, or vote third party?"

I don't like repeating myself. Go here for the answer: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1630347/posts?page=574#574

"Your answer, and that of millions of other Border Conservatives, determines the future of the Republic."

It is what it is. For further enlightenment go talk to the White House, the RNC, the NRCC, the NRSC and assorted other traitors cluttering up our nation's capitol.

From what I can see, with last night's fiasco, Bush has lost what was left of his conservative base (and that wasn't much).

3,208 posted on 05/16/2006 4:54:18 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Deo et Patria

Dont forget liberal packing of the CIA which we still have a major problem with from the reign of Klintonius.


3,209 posted on 05/16/2006 4:54:20 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: Deo et Patria

"In fact, I'd like to know what about the liberal agenda for America (REAL amnesty for illegals, abortion, gay marriage, higher taxes, liberal judges, defense cuts, impeachment for Bush, abandoning the war on terror, etc.) is so appealing for Mr. Steyn."

Why don't you ask him?

mailbox@steynonline.com

I look forward to seeing your question published on the site and answered.


3,210 posted on 05/16/2006 4:54:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: R.W.Ratikal

According the the FreeRepublic Poll, only 30.1% thought the speech was a good start. Any way you try to slice and dice the numbers, they come out bad for the President, and worse for our beautiful America.


3,211 posted on 05/16/2006 4:58:39 PM PDT by devane617
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To: nopardons
Well my initial statement was that it was Slick Willies - but then after a 17 hour day I questioned my self and was corrected by several helpful Freepers. I don't give a $hit if take me seriously or not. Just know that in the long run I am more correct than Rush.
3,212 posted on 05/16/2006 5:28:18 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Thank you sir. Always count on freepers to help out in a moment of need! :-)
3,213 posted on 05/16/2006 5:29:24 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: diverteach

"I was under the impression that you HAD to be a US citizen in order to serve in our armed forces.

This calls for the biggest WTF EVER."

If you knew anything about history, it has been happening since the revolutionary war.


3,214 posted on 05/16/2006 5:42:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Done. Hopefully he will respond.


3,215 posted on 05/16/2006 6:23:26 PM PDT by Deo et Patria
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To: Deo et Patria

I'll keep an eye on the site, and will be very interested in any reply myself.


3,216 posted on 05/16/2006 6:32:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: xzins
However, the Bible does support one instance that I know of in which a horde of illegal aliens invaded and overthrew a legitimate government.
That was when Joshua led the Children of Israel into the Promised Land and displaced the people currently living there.


The government was NOT legitimate, because the ultimate authority gave instructions for His law to be enforced in driving out those in rebellion.
3,217 posted on 05/16/2006 6:47:29 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: ideas_over_party
Worried there for a moment. ;)

Didn't mean to shake you up there. :)

That agrees with what I've seen. The percentages of Americans of Hispanic descent that are against amnesty are greater than those who voted Republican last election - at least in the polls I've seen. It only stands to reason, really. They're Americans.

I've pretty much given up on polls.LOL Talked to a "citizen" the other day that tends to lean to the left and even he asked "Just what do they think they are doing? This is OUR country!" Not much patience for them down here at all. As you may know, having lived here, it is nothing new in this part of the world.

True. Doesn't mean we should invite the rest of the world to do so, too.

THAT is VERY TRUE!!!

3,218 posted on 05/16/2006 7:17:11 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
You think that Rush knows "everything", or that he is somehow always right?

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

3,219 posted on 05/16/2006 7:27:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"and almost ended up in jail."

Should have offered to do masonry work or framing on some homes. might have made a difference.


3,220 posted on 05/16/2006 7:55:53 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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