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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"I couldn't belive Dingy Harry having the ba!!$ to stand up and say every time one of us stays in a hotel we should thank an illegal immigrant... did he lose what brain cells he has left last summer when he had his stroke?"

Harry is a nasty piece of work, no brain cells there just spit.


3,161 posted on 05/16/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I swear it wasn't me.


3,162 posted on 05/16/2006 11:51:39 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Vicomte13

You are the voice of reason on this thread.


3,163 posted on 05/16/2006 12:00:52 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Wuli
"...if the employers start getting the legal maximums in punishment they will quit being the honey attracting the workers."

Correct. Take away the incentive for the illegals to come and solve the problem. We don't need to pass new laws, just enforce the current laws to the max. However, we have an immediate problem with border crossings that does need intervention.

3,164 posted on 05/16/2006 12:01:45 PM PDT by devane617
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I would say (although I do not know) 40% representing conservative votes would include RINO's too. I haven't been able to really figure out what a RINO is? Are they just less conservative? Meaning they believe in some government involvement. Business sure likes government when it suits their needs. Do we call these folks RINOs? I guess I haven't figured it out yet. I think it is only ideology anyway. We don't live in that kind of world.


3,165 posted on 05/16/2006 12:10:56 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th (Send-a-Brick.com. Send a brick to Washington and cash to Minutemen for a wall.)
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To: Wuli; Jim Robinson

Well, here's what I think. First, you're an insulting agitprop who tried to raise a strawman, switching my comment of rational approach to your preferred strawman of 'comprehensive approach'. Second, you tried to misdirect readers by inviting them to equate the idiocy of the Senate approach, spouting endless 'amendments' to be debated, with what the president did say in his speech. His speech is an approach; the Senate methodology is a gordian knot, or gordian 'not' if you prefer. Now go away and play with your agitprop friends somewhere else other than FR.


3,166 posted on 05/16/2006 12:12:23 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
"PR stunts used to placate the politician's own supporters have a very slim chance of being successful."

From what I can see between last night and today, the President's speech went over like a lead balloon with conservatives.

I see no reason to be any less pissed off than I was before the speech.

3,167 posted on 05/16/2006 12:47:50 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: absalom01
"Down here on the ground, it looks like the Republican leadership is heading the party directly at a huge cliff, and they have no intention of slowing down or changing course."

I know and talk with quite a few conservatives. Since the President's speech last night, I have spoken with, or been contacted by, somewhat more than half of them. I intend to touch base with all of them. So far, I have yet to find a single one of them who is not more angry after the speech than before.

The comments are quite damning.

3,168 posted on 05/16/2006 1:00:52 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: You Dirty Rats; Palladin

A day late and a year over. Your mother is ONLY 72 (until July 19, 2006) :)

My husband made the same mistake--he got an earful!! 72 is great--I highly recommend it!!! Any age we are on the right side of the grass is great.


3,169 posted on 05/16/2006 1:01:10 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick ("Never give in, never give in, never, never, never." Winston Churchill, October 29, 1941)
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To: Palladin

This OBL voted for GOVERNOR LYNN SWANN today; hope you did too (unless you aren't a PA voter).


3,170 posted on 05/16/2006 1:03:13 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick ("Never give in, never give in, never, never, never." Winston Churchill, October 29, 1941)
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To: GoldwaterChick

OK, it was late and I subtracted 1933 from 2006. My bad.


3,171 posted on 05/16/2006 1:08:03 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

My birthday card last year gives you a Get Out of Jail Free card for life! Actually sometimes I'm not quite sure myself! :)


3,172 posted on 05/16/2006 1:13:14 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick ("Never give in, never give in, never, never, never." Winston Churchill, October 29, 1941)
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To: whatisthetruth

"Anchor babies" is the extremely common practice of Mexican women getting across the border, even within minutes of giving birth, in order that their baby will be a U.S. citizen and will be supported by American tax payer money for the rest of his or her life. The 14th Amendment was originally intended to designate citizenship to freed slaves. It has been interpretted, probably erroneously, to mean that anyone born on U.S. soil is automatically a citizen.


3,173 posted on 05/16/2006 1:17:00 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: hole_n_one

Buenos dias, senor. How's it going in the valley?


3,174 posted on 05/16/2006 1:18:28 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: xzins
(Think: Parable of the Good Samaritan.)  

 

I am thinking more along the lines of selling one's birthright for a mess of pottage ...


3,175 posted on 05/16/2006 1:31:08 PM PDT by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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To: xzins

go here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1633303/posts


3,176 posted on 05/16/2006 1:54:15 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: clawrence3
Since you are such an old-timer, have you seen Jim Robinson's posts about being a party to anything that elects Democrats?

You're like the guy in the office that always tries to score browny points by carbon copying your emails to the boss when they have your kiss-a$$ one-liners in them. By the way, no I haven't seen the post, dork.

3,177 posted on 05/16/2006 2:16:15 PM PDT by rodeocowboy (Vote Constitution Party in 2006 to send a message to the Republican Party for 2008!)
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To: Dane; Palladin
All ethnic groups have their human scum, but you would rather focus on the ethnicity rather than the brutal crimes they committ.

Dane, you're the only one focused on ethnicity and race. The original poster said nothing about race. He specifically spoke of illegal aliens. Why do you continue to inject false allegations of ethnic "animus" (or whatever bullcrap word you're using anymore) when anyone complains about illegal aliens? Why don't you do something constructive to contribute to the debate instead of running around Free Republic throwing the race card out in every other post you make? You spend half your time attacking conservatives and calling the racists. The other half of your time you spend making false accusations and smears against rock solid Conservative Republican Tom Tancredo who has earned a 100% Best and Brightest rating from the American Conservative Union.

Who's side are you on?

3,178 posted on 05/16/2006 2:55:17 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Czar

So, you're pissed off.

Bottom line: do you vote for the Republicans in 2006, or stay home, or vote third party?

What are you going to DO in November?

Your answer, and that of millions of other Border Conservatives, determines the future of the Republic.

"He who can destroy a thing, also controls a thing." - from Dune


3,179 posted on 05/16/2006 3:02:07 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (La nuit tombe.)
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To: JCEccles
You misunderstood my post.

I didn't say it was impossible, I said it's not going to happen.
No President is going to deport of millions of people.

3,180 posted on 05/16/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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