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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: TexasPatriot8

I'm with you Texas!


2,321 posted on 05/15/2006 8:21:41 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: bd476

Well stated. Thanks.


2,322 posted on 05/15/2006 8:21:43 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: bd476

Good rebuttal.

Hope you are right, for the sake of my grandchildren.


2,323 posted on 05/15/2006 8:21:51 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: TexasPatriot8

The President is sending 6000 NG troops down there, temporarily. There are 10664 total border patrol officers on both the northern and southern borders.

There are 40,000 officers in just the NYPD. What's wrong with this picture?


2,324 posted on 05/15/2006 8:21:59 PM PDT by claudiustg (Build a fence. They won't come.)
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To: devane617

"I think many in his circle has been taken by surprise at the strong feelings against ii."

Good, then they'll learn. You are right that Rush sometimes fence-sits on certain issues, but I think he's caught on about this one; at least I hope he has. Rush's problem is that he has gotten too cozy with the Bush Admin, at least certain members of it, and they use him as a conduit to get certain issues out. This is fine, as long as Rush tries to maintain some objectivity and remembers that he is a conservative first, and a Pub second. It will be interesting to see what he says tomorrow. I'll be sure to listen.

Hope he doesn't disappoint me and his other conservative listeners by spouting the Party line or trying to cover for Bush and his speech. He'll probably try to split the difference, saying some parts are good, others bad. Which again, would be somewhat of a cop out actually. The good news is that Rush owned up to being blasted while in CA. An eye opener for him, and that's good. Will bring him back to reality. Always does when you get back out amongst the grassroots.


2,325 posted on 05/15/2006 8:22:25 PM PDT by flaglady47 (RINO = Fifth Column)
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To: Peach
I saw Tancredo on Fox right after the speech. He might like the National Guard element but he and King pretty much hated everything else. They both basically said they are not compromising at all and damn the consequences. Oh well, I expected that unfortunately
2,326 posted on 05/15/2006 8:22:44 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

And when NONE of them do ANY of those things, what then? Is this administration going to acutally enforce it's own illegal alien policies?


2,327 posted on 05/15/2006 8:22:47 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Appeasable Border Hawk)
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To: Peach

Dobbs and Tancredo had initial good comments about the speech. Dobbs later changed his tune a bit. Tancredo was all over the place tonite, but all his comments toward the president were respectful, even though he didn't agree with all the speech. As a matter of fact, I didn't really see anybody in my channel surfing trash the prez, though I'm sure some did.


2,328 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:10 PM PDT by umgud (so lonely, I take telemarketer calls)
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To: caryatid

Oh, that was so naughty!


2,330 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:19 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Earthdweller

he didn't propose closing the border only securing it and reducing illegal immigration

oh here is what Nixon did in 1969
http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/library/studies/cu/CU59.html


2,331 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:21 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: defenderSD
That was my point...regarding the Mexican people.

To suggest the same fate that awaits Europe will afflict us is ludicrous on its face.

I am reminded tonight what somebody else just said about it being impossible to deport 12 million.

He/she typed..."Mexico did!"

2,332 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: claudiustg
Lou Dobbs on CNN just now is being relatively postive about the speech
2,333 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:23 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Wuli
"You have always been able to tell the "hard hats" at Manhatten construction projects from the "cash" workers. Although the number of construction projects in Manhatten seems to have exploded, it is definately more of the "cash" workers you see, while middle class cityizen, union suburban skilled tradesmen are having a harder time staying in the trades.

It is greed, not a lack of willing workers."


Please, in all your wisdom, explain how someone that can't read or write is displacing any skilled worker ?
2,334 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:28 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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To: speed_addiction

"While she is a complete and total bitch, she is also one of the truest and proudest Americans I know."

LOL, that's very fair of you to say. I guess.


2,336 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:38 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: ExSES

Thank you for your service.


2,337 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:42 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Dane
"any pimply faced kid can walk into any McDonalds and get a job"

Wrong. Here the fast food joints advertise for bilingual help.

2,338 posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:54 PM PDT by RoseyT
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To: ideas_over_party
Heck, why is Sandy Burger not in a federal prison?

Now THAT we agree on 100%..

2,339 posted on 05/15/2006 8:24:09 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy in 2008!)
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To: Earthdweller

That can't be right. Lou Dobbs does not want amnesty for illegals. What am I missing in your post.


2,340 posted on 05/15/2006 8:24:12 PM PDT by Peach
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