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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: Bobbisox

I agree with you. People should turn their attention to enforcement in their own communities, and citizens could do a lot. Imagine using neighborhood watch and checkpoints. Apparently, we are going to have a national crackdown on seatbelts, but law enforcement can't be bothered with illegals. Whose priorities are those?


1,421 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:37 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

Bush needs Democratic votes - lots of them - in both chambers, to get this thing passed. I don't know what calculations you are making.


1,422 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: panaxanax
"12,000 More Federal Boots on the Border" "Correction: Make that 6000. He said the NG will be replaced with BP by 2008."

6000 X 2 boots per troop = 12,000

1,423 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:42 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: All

Heads Up

Michelle Malkin on Fox NEXT!


1,424 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:48 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Yaelle
When the jobs dry up, the illegals will deport themselves.

You underestimate the staying power and the propensity for getting around the rules that is a defining characteristic of the illegal alien population. They'll all just become independent contractors, or exploit some other such loophole.

1,425 posted on 05/15/2006 6:04:53 PM PDT by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: tennmountainman

Some of what Bush has done is posted on the whitehouse.gov site...I do hope you take the time to read it...for ex. "Since President Bush Took Office, We Have Increased Funding For Border Security By 66 Percent And Expanded The Border Patrol From About 9,000 To 12,000 Agents. Over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home more than 6 million people entering America illegally.


1,427 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:04 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: 4integrity

You may be right. Most don't know that a Republican president also started the Enviornmental Protection Agency. That was Richard Nixon.


1,428 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:07 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Seattle Conservative
If you're interested in reading these bills, let me know and I'll post them for you.

Most here wouldn't read them anyway...to easy to blame Bush.

1,429 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:08 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Palladin

">>>President Bush says there is no way we can deport 12 million people. It is just can't be done....
Mexico did!!!<<<

Applause, applause. That's the best quote of the night."


More applause. What an absolutely true statement of fact. And all 12 million are in every nook and corner of our country now, wanting to claim it as their own.


1,430 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:08 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Y)
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To: Deo et Patria

And where are the true conservatives going instead of FR. I would like to know and evaluate....but I have my doubts you are right.


1,431 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:18 PM PDT by conservaDave (You can't ignore the democRAT...He's a menace to health, home and industry...kill him!)
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To: new yorker 77; All

That is how I vote, however, I live in Denny Hastert's district..


1,432 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:28 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Mercat
He said "illegal" 20 times and "jobs Americans aren't doing" once.

I couldn't believe he said that. That's worse than "won't do" because it implies that we are creating jobs specifically for illegals to sneak into our country to do.

Making Persian rugs is another "job Americans aren't doing" but that doesn't justify sneaking 20 million Iranians into the country to create a Persian rug industry in the US.

1,433 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:35 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: clawrence3

The bracero program was NOT amnesty. It had to be applied for in Mexico. It did not apply to those already here.

Amd if you don't know how many illegals there were then, your question about the bracero program is moot.


1,434 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Halls
What are we going to do when we offer these illegals that have been here a long time right to citizenship and they don't take it since it means they have to pay bak taxes,etc? Are we going to give them a time limit to get it together or else or are we just going to continue letting them live here as illegals?

Well, if you're actually of a mind to legalize these border-jumpers, you just have them pay the 2,000-dollar fine, not any back taxes.

1,435 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: hole_n_one

Well thanks, I thought it was. I just dont know what to do with it. A ping list? Its own thread? There's lots of them out there to put on it!


1,436 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:43 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Czar

I was most disappointed to hear him float the canard that "some people are calling for mass deportations." Sounds like some of the real nut-case FReepers when he says that. On FOX News both King of NY and Tancredo of CO knocked that down. Of course there is a middle ground between amnesty and mass deportations. Secure the borders and apply the law to employers. He failed to say word one about the latter.


1,437 posted on 05/15/2006 6:05:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: SLB

"In a year he will be beyond lame, maybe paralyzed."

More likely impeached by the Dems.


1,438 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:03 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Y)
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To: ideas_over_party
"That and this "line" allows them to stay here. That's not at the "end of the line". The "end of the line" is back in their own country with other people petitioning to enter legally."

True, and what is Vincente Fox going to do to help us out with the Illegal immigration problem? Did I miss that part?

sw

1,439 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:09 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("He who tries to please all, pleases none)
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To: kellynla
Heads Up Michelle Malkin on Fox NEXT!

Thanks! Headin' back to FOX!

1,440 posted on 05/15/2006 6:06:13 PM PDT by LK44-40
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